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Post by Marv on Feb 23, 2009 20:50:34 GMT 10
Wouldn't a 1/2 full wembley (40-50k) for an England v Aus be better than a 12k stoop? or even a 25k JJB? No FFS, the soccer could have filled it twice over it would look abysmal what you guys dont seem to understand is the barometor for everything in the Uk is soccer. Hell the Unioite manages about that last year for a Baba v Wannabies game and it looke decent as they made sure the bottom rafters were full and the cameras didnt pan to the top.... I mean its not fucking rocket surgery on how to do this shit. it looks shit druzik, everyone knows it and knows what there upto, just like MM looked shit on tv |
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Post by Marv on Feb 23, 2009 20:56:31 GMT 10
I'm with Druzik, the 4N has been undersold. Stoop - Bad decision, should have played it in Cardiff and i guess in your opinon 100 million would have turned up if it were in Cardiff, you guys need to get real for fucks sake. and given London and England game. where at? JJB for one of the biggest rivalries in out sport? yeah JJB for one of the biggest rivalrys in our sport, The JJb that houses one of the biggest and best teams in our sport, the JJB that wasnt sold out last time we played there and wont be this time. Huddersfield instead of Hull for what shapes to be a virtual semi final? there the same size ground (25k) and Hudds is miles easier for Lancs and Cumbrian fans to get to than Hull, so whats your point? It just seems your whnging for the sake of it anyway i hear hulls staduim management company turned the game away |
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Post by Druzik on Feb 23, 2009 21:08:16 GMT 10
Wouldn't a 1/2 full wembley (40-50k) for an England v Aus be better than a 12k stoop? or even a 25k JJB? No FFS, the soccer could have filled it twice over it would look abysmal what you guys dont seem to understand is the barometor for everything in the Uk is soccer. Hell the Unioite manages about that last year for a Baba v Wannabies game and it looke decent as they made sure the bottom rafters were full and the cameras didnt pan to the top.... I mean its not fucking rocket surgery on how to do this shit. it looks shit druzik, everyone knows it and knows what there upto, just like MM looked shit on tv Look I realise soccer is the benchmark... *hiss* ... but we need to start making money. Look what has changed so much from 10 years ago when you could get 70k for a test match in wembley to now... where no one is willing to take a gamble on it any more |
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Post by Marv on Feb 23, 2009 21:35:40 GMT 10
Look what has changed so much from 10 years ago when you could get 70k for a test match in wembley to now... where no one is willing to take a gamble on it any more thats pretty easy, were not as good as the Aussies as we used to be, and we were still no-where near then. and as far as I can remember we have only had 3 test matches at wembley in my lifetime one was the opener for the 1995 world cup, its hardly a yearly blockbuster of 70k regulars |
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Post by Marv on Feb 23, 2009 21:37:32 GMT 10
Look I realise soccer is the benchmark... *hiss* ... but we need to start making money. where do you get the idea that using wmebley is gonna make us money? How much would it cost to use? how much could you recoup, how many people are coming? I just dont see how you would think a one game gamble at wembley could make us more than a solid series in northern venues, if anything using Wnebley would lose money |
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Post by jim on Feb 23, 2009 21:44:46 GMT 10
and i guess in your opinon 100 million would have turned up if it were in Cardiff, you guys need to get real for fucks sake. Not quite  , thought I'd try and lighten the mood in here. Seriously though I do think they could have made it a big event with a Wales EC game. I think we should have gotten games in Cardiff, London and Paris being the three capital cities of countries with SL clubs. We got two but with a bit of tweaking we could have got three and AUS V NZL is the only game that we could take to Wales. Well you may be onto something there, just had a look and there aren't that many suitably sized grounds in London, and the ones that are are soccer grounds. Still think the RFL should have tried hard to get an England game in England's capital like France are doing. there the same size ground (25k) and Hudds is miles easier for Lancs and Cumbrian fans to get to than Hull, so whats your point? It just seems your whnging for the sake of it anyway i hear hulls staduim management company turned the game away Because we would have had got more at Hull IMHO. Do you think I'm wrong? Well it doesn't really matter anyway because of the second point. OK this is my honest opinion, it may be all well and good for Wigan fans to get to JJB and Huddersfield fans to get to Galpharm but from an outsiders point of view I find these venues very uninspiring. I think the conservatative choice of venues could actually stop people from coming whether it be from Manchester, Auckland or Kabra. Anyway I don't like it, you do we can argue all day but the most important thing is that we get people to games and see some top class RL. I may even make the trip for a few games if I've got $ to spend. |
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Post by Marv on Feb 23, 2009 21:58:57 GMT 10
Because we would have had got more at Hull IMHO. Do you think I'm wrong? I think you probably would have got more at Hull, but it wouldnt have been by too many, I dont see it as the end of the world, I do feel Hull deserves the game over Hudds, however simply because they have 2 very well supported SL clubs OK this is my honest opinion, it may be all well and good for Wigan fans to get to JJB and Huddersfield fans to get to Galpharm but from an outsiders point of view I find these venues very uninspiring. I think the conservatative choice of venues could actually stop people from coming whether it be from Manchester, Auckland or Kabra. Bollocks, they are venues which ooze Rugby League, any RL fan worth his salt knows the significance of towns like Wigan and Huddersfeild on the scope of the game. Im not from Wigan or Huddersfeild but I dont mind one bit that these are the venues, because I know that they wont be full and if they were bigger they would be less full. |
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Post by Druzik on Feb 23, 2009 23:37:26 GMT 10
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Post by Druzik on Feb 23, 2009 23:59:11 GMT 10
;D
Marv we have to figure out which forum we will agree to disagree on!
its really stirred the nest over on TRL...
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Post by Druzik on Feb 24, 2009 2:31:57 GMT 10
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Post by jim on Feb 24, 2009 20:32:25 GMT 10
Because we would have had got more at Hull IMHO. Do you think I'm wrong? I think you probably would have got more at Hull, but it wouldnt have been by too many, I dont see it as the end of the world, I do feel Hull deserves the game over Hudds, however simply because they have 2 very well supported SL clubs OK this is my honest opinion, it may be all well and good for Wigan fans to get to JJB and Huddersfield fans to get to Galpharm but from an outsiders point of view I find these venues very uninspiring. I think the conservatative choice of venues could actually stop people from coming whether it be from Manchester, Auckland or Kabra. Bollocks, they are venues which ooze Rugby League, any RL fan worth his salt knows the significance of towns like Wigan and Huddersfeild on the scope of the game. Im not from Wigan or Huddersfeild but I dont mind one bit that these are the venues, because I know that they wont be full and if they were bigger they would be less full. Alright Marv you make some good points but I'm not prepared to settle on your side, I'll settle half way between and say that my original schedule was too much too expect but the one we got was a bit too conservative. The fact that the biggest venue that will be used is 40k capacity is not a great look for our International game. I would have been happy if we could have hired a medium sized ground like Anfield, Emirates, CoM etc. for a big game, probably for England V Australia and marketed it best we could. Anyway that's what I think but I'll live with the decision and loom forward to what should be a great tournament. |
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Post by Marv on Feb 24, 2009 23:06:05 GMT 10
Alright Marv you make some good points but I'm not prepared to settle on your side, I'll settle half way between and say that my original schedule was too much too expect but the one we got was a bit too conservative. I agree the schedule has a conservative look. The fact that the biggest venue that will be used is 40k capacity is not a great look for our International game. the WCFinal was at suncorp and that ground is only 52k, not much bigger than Elland Rd. Com is only about 45k too so I dont see your point mate I would have been happy if we could have hired a medium sized ground like Anfield, Emirates, CoM etc. for a big game, probably for England V Australia and marketed it best we could. and who pays when it doesnt do as well as was thought? |
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Post by England 3 Lions on Feb 25, 2009 0:11:49 GMT 10
The key is to promote the matches well in advance and offer something that might entice casual RL fans to attend the event. For example, offering a free beer/Coke to the first 20,000 ticket buyers might lure in a few casual fans who otherwise wouldn't attend a live match. The problem with this idea is it's dependent upon some one picking up the tab for the 20,000 serves of beer/Coke.
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Post by Druzik on Feb 25, 2009 0:17:24 GMT 10
The key is to promote the matches well in advance and offer something that might entice casual RL fans to attend the event. For example, offering a free beer/Coke to the first 20,000 ticket buyers might lure in a few casual fans who otherwise wouldn't attend a live match. The problem with this idea is it's dependent upon some one picking up the tab for the 20,000 serves of beer/Coke. Well it was suggested on other forums that they do something like all ticket holders get free bubic transport (as is done in Oz) and then get a complimentry irnu Brew and Super league pie at the ground... I am not sure if free beer would be such a good thing... I think there may be laws against that. But I take your point... promotion needs to be done way better its, what RL really is lacking. |
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Post by Marv on Feb 25, 2009 18:04:13 GMT 10
The key is to promote the matches well in advance and offer something that might entice casual RL fans to attend the event. For example, offering a free beer/Coke to the first 20,000 ticket buyers might lure in a few casual fans who otherwise wouldn't attend a live match. The problem with this idea is it's dependent upon some one picking up the tab for the 20,000 serves of beer/Coke. Thats a bloody good Idea E3L, if you think about it you could almost offset the price of the beer/drink/burger into the ticket price, maybe just by adding an extra pound |
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, thought I'd try and lighten the mood in here. Seriously though I do think they could have made it a big event with a Wales EC game.