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Post by jim on Aug 26, 2008 21:53:12 GMT 10
The next couple of Tri nations almost completely hang on France ability to compete with the big three. Just not being embarresed is the key for them in 09 Agreed, they are only going to improve IMO what they really need to do is get a few more players in key positions in SL, hooker, halfs and ofcourse fullback. After Gorrell moves on I would like to see a frenchie be groomed for the job, isn't one of the Bentleys a hooker? Also Greenshields will become available late next year maybe he'll want to play for France, what are people's thoughts on that? Personally I wouldn't mind simply because France are in need of a quality fullback. Up to him I guess. Theres no reason why they couldnt sell out in perpignan, but not aime giral have the games at the League stadium game at the Stade gilbert brutus which i belive will be 12k capacity with the new stand 10-12k against the aussies is well possible Will Gilbert Brutus be upto 12k by next year though? I thought the work was going to take 2 or 3 years before it was upto 12/13k. I think it might be an idea to take it somewhere close by which has a bigger stadium, Breziers isn't too far away for the Perpignan fans to travel so that would probably be the best option. I actually quite like the double header idea for Toulouse and I think they'd be able to get atleast 20k. No mate, the opening cermony has to be Eng v Aus especially if they take a game to wembley as spud says, a final at wembley not involving England would be a disaster. Yep I agree with that, Spud said similar before that it would be a massive risk and may be a bit over the top having 2 games there. since we dont know how much the tickets cost or how much the relevant authorities would want to use the facilitys or how many people would turn up, Im not sure how you arrived at this jim I think the tournament even with 3 games in France can be quite profitable. A guy on TRL was saying something about a club england, I quite liked the idea it was like having a membership for the national team and getting cheaper merchandise. He was saying that 100-150k attend SL/NL games when their team plays so no reason if the national team is marketed well they can't get 40,50,60k to every game. I quite like the idea and it would work well for all national teams, maybe not the best for AUS since the country is so large but it could definatley work for smaller (size not population) countries. I meant to say 17, Greseque would be the only one of them I'd pick on first choice but as I said I'm not the coach and the other 3 may well be good selections with better fitness. I'm not sure can you get team lists for all the broncos feeder clubs, they would soon tell you, The training will be a million miles away from what their used to and TBH if they were in France they would be sat on their arse anyway. I hope they are training with the top side or atleast the toyota cup boys. Yeah 6 Franch first graders out at the weekend hopefully they come good and stay good, the only team that can really sustain injuries is Australia ATM. Yeah I agree much the same as the Russians being Semi-Pro but not upto the English Ameteur level. TBH the PNg lads must be up to a certain standard... the team scored a draw against top NRL youngsters, but when the big games come around Im sure we cant look past the big 3 Hopefully they do well, the locals are probably the best "locals" out of all the teams except maybe France. That PMXIII side had alot of good players, off the top of my head I remember Chris Lawrence and Mark Gasnier. It must have been a huge boost to their confidence drwaing with a side with sucg quality. |
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Post by Marv on Aug 27, 2008 18:52:48 GMT 10
yeah...samoa are gonna be tough to beat...  I think your missing the point spud...... |
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Post by Marv on Aug 27, 2008 19:15:24 GMT 10
Agreed, they are only going to improve IMO what they really need to do is get a few more players in key positions in SL, hooker, halfs and ofcourse fullback. After Gorrell moves on I would like to see a frenchie be groomed for the job, isn't one of the Bentleys a hooker? Yes Kane Bentley I belive, I have said this for ages before we go with Toulouse, Catalans need more French players in key positions. Toulouse should get their chance and when they do French league should be able to grow again, but it needs to be done correctly. Also Greenshields will become available late next year maybe he'll want to play for France, what are people's thoughts on that? Personally I wouldn't mind simply because France are in need of a quality fullback. Up to him I guess. Completly up to him I think if he is eligigible and he wants to play for them then they will pick him, but whether it the right thing to do or not is different matter. Will Gilbert Brutus be upto 12k by next year though? I thought the work was going to take 2 or 3 years before it was upto 12/13k. I think it might be an idea to take it somewhere close by which has a bigger stadium, Breziers isn't too far away for the Perpignan fans to travel so that would probably be the best option. Im not 100% sure jim TBH regards the stadium but at 50 miles away Beziers might as well be a million miles away I actually quite like the double header idea for Toulouse and I think they'd be able to get atleast 20k. 20k maybe but 30k is just a random figure pulled out of the air I think the tournament even with 3 games in France can be quite profitable. A guy on TRL was saying something about a club england, I quite liked the idea it was like having a membership for the national team and getting cheaper merchandise. He was saying that 100-150k attend SL/NL games when their team plays so no reason if the national team is marketed well they can't get 40,50,60k to every game. But all those people who attend the SL games will know GB/England are playing anyway, so why dont they come? because they couldnt give a stuff about RL ouside St Helens, Castleford or Widnes mate! The Internationals are also advertised at the GF when theres 75k RL fans so why dont they come, again matey is having himself on by plucking random figures out of the air, and is just going to be disapointed at the end of the day! I quite like the idea and it would work well for all national teams, maybe not the best for AUS since the country is so large but it could definatley work for smaller (size not population) countries. I dont see it myself. I meant to say 17, Greseque would be the only one of them I'd pick on first choice but as I said I'm not the coach and the other 3 may well be good selections with better fitness. I think its more of a limitation For me Greseque, Saddoui and Planas will be in because theres no-one else! I would have all 4 in personally. I hope they are training with the top side or atleast the toyota cup boys. maybe Nige knows? the only team that can really sustain injuries is Australia ATM. True Hopefully they do well, the locals are probably the best "locals" out of all the teams except maybe France. That PMXIII side had alot of good players, off the top of my head I remember Chris Lawrence and Mark Gasnier. It must have been a huge boost to their confidence drwaing with a side with sucg quality. Bird was in too I think, good on em I think but it seems the same as NZ v France these are end of season hit outs for these guys after a long hard NRL season and for France and PNG its Game of the season |
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Post by jim on Aug 27, 2008 22:35:59 GMT 10
Yes Kane Bentley I belive, I have said this for ages before we go with Toulouse, Catalans need more French players in key positions. Toulouse should get their chance and when they do French league should be able to grow again, but it needs to be done correctly. Well for a start I would like to see them cut down on buying aussies. I would like to have seen a french centre like Duport or Baile make one of the centre positions his own but now it looks unlikely with Mogg and Bell. I'm not sure how many are moving but I wouldn't like to see them with less French in their team next year. Toulouse are a must for SL '12, RL in France's profile will grow immensly with 2 teams in Super League. If Toulouse are a sucess it opens a door for another French SL club from Paris or Lyon for example for SL 2015. Maybe a financial backer will see the potential in RL and pour money into new pro teams and/or a French SL. I've said it before but if 3 French teams get into SL there should be plans to set up a 5/6 french SL within the next few years. Completly up to him I think if he is eligigible and he wants to play for them then they will pick him, but whether it the right thing to do or not is different matter. hmmm well I would rather him picked than Trent Clayton or Jared Taylor. I personally hope he does confirm for France simply because of the fullback problem. Greenshields at the back would give the national team alot. On the flip side I wouldn't like to see all these Catalans players start to switch. For example I would rather see Remi Casty packing into the French scrum than Jason Ryles. but at 50 miles away Beziers might as well be a million miles away Oh yeh I forgot that you Europeans think 50 miles is a long way  If I want to drive to my nearest NRL game it would take 7 hours and I'm in RL heartland But all those people who attend the SL games will know GB/England are playing anyway, so why dont they come? because they couldnt give a stuff about RL ouside St Helens, Castleford or Widnes mate! The Internationals are also advertised at the GF when theres 75k RL fans so why dont they come, again matey is having himself on by plucking random figures out of the air, and is just going to be disapointed at the end of the day! Well that is something that needs to be changed, Internations should be the pinnacle events and should get great crowds. Same problem in Sydney though really, Yakstorm on TRL said 20,000 tickets have been sold for the brisbane semi whilst a combined total of 15k have been sold for the SFS games. Look at major global sports, Football, RU, Cricket, Hockey... Internation is the pinacle for all those sports and RL should be trying its hardest to replicate that. England V Wales should sell out easily but it probably won't. 2 clubs, one of them not the biggest filled the keepmoat so why shouldn't we be able to fill it for an England game? Something needs to be done to change the priorities of RL fans and it needs to be done quickly. I think its more of a limitation For me Greseque, Saddoui and Planas will be in because theres no-one else! I would have all 4 in personally. Yeh France don;t have much depth at all but personally I would go with this or something close to it. 1. Pelo2. Khattabi 3. Anselme 4. Duport5. Murphy 6. Bosc7. Greseque 8. Ferriol 9. Rinaldi 10. Guisset11. Carassco 12. Fakir13. Mounis14. Casty15. Raguin 16. Fellous 17. Wynne Very strong in the forwards but as always light in the backs. Players in bold are players I have seen play that look real quality. Bird was in too I think, good on em I think but it seems the same as NZ v France these are end of season hit outs for these guys after a long hard NRL season and for France and PNG its Game of the season Yeh there werte some great players, Creagh i think, Farah? I disagree about the end of season hit-out though. It may be that way for some players but alot of the younger and fringe players would use the oppurtunity to try and push for further rep selection. |
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Post by Druzik on Aug 28, 2008 3:28:05 GMT 10
steady on jim, you'll have to start a 2010 4nations thread...lol about 50miles I was in Beziers this year for the Elite final... one of the worst situated and accessed stadiums I have been to. There is zero public tranports there, buses stof at 5 pm and are a hike to the stadium. Though it is close to a lot of strip joints. Remember that FFR has to actually get off their buts and organise something. |
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Post by Marv on Aug 28, 2008 17:16:49 GMT 10
Well for a start I would like to see them cut down on buying aussies. I would like to have seen a french centre like Duport or Baile make one of the centre positions his own but now it looks unlikely with Mogg and Bell. I'm not sure how many are moving but I wouldn't like to see them with less French in their team next year. I agree I would like to see even more French guys get a shot. My thinking is though that steve bell has been brought in to replace john wilson and Jason Ryles to rpleace Alex Chan so I think you will see a similar self imposed quota on Catalans. Toulouse are a must for SL '12, RL in France's profile will grow immensly with 2 teams in Super League. If Toulouse are a sucess it opens a door for another French SL club from Paris or Lyon for example for SL 2015. Maybe a financial backer will see the potential in RL and pour money into new pro teams and/or a French SL. I've said it before but if 3 French teams get into SL there should be plans to set up a 5/6 french SL within the next few years. I personally think that 2 should be the limit for now. I personally hope he does confirm for France simply because of the fullback problem. Greenshields at the back would give the national team alot. We shall have to wait and see then mate On the flip side I wouldn't like to see all these Catalans players start to switch. For example I would rather see Remi Casty packing into the French scrum than Jason Ryles. Obviously this could happen but I think the French are too proud than to pack their team with Aussies Oh yeh I forgot that you Europeans think 50 miles is a long way If I want to drive to my nearest NRL game it would take 7 hours and I'm in RL heartland Well mate I aint European  for a start But if you think the small town RL attitude is bad in the UK then you should see France!! the people of Perpignan would see it as a slight on them if the test was not in their town, never mind a strategic neutral venue. Well that is something that needs to be changed, Internations should be the pinnacle events and should get great crowds. Same problem in Sydney though really, Yakstorm on TRL said 20,000 tickets have been sold for the brisbane semi whilst a combined total of 15k have been sold for the SFS games. well this touches on another arguament, if the organisers of the WC dont take the comp seriously then why should the Aussie public? Look at major global sports, Football, RU, Cricket, Hockey... Internation is the pinacle for all those sports and RL should be trying its hardest to replicate that. I know and agree 110% England V Wales should sell out easily but it probably won't. 2 clubs, one of them not the biggest filled the keepmoat so why shouldn't we be able to fill it for an England game? Something needs to be done to change the priorities of RL fans and it needs to be done quickly. Quick word on Wakefeild its not often a club like wakey gets to CC semi - it was big for their support. Small town mentality again mate, it happens in Sydney it happens in wigan it happens in Perpignan, and most RL fans know that England are gonna steamroller Wales, who TBH will be a poor side. so what do you suggest we do, you cant change the mentality of a 100 years of tradition Yeh France don;t have much depth at all but personally I would go with this or something close to it. 1. Pelo2. Khattabi 3. Anselme 4. Duport5. Murphy 6. Bosc7. Greseque 8. Ferriol 9. Rinaldi 10. Guisset11. Carassco 12. Fakir13. Mounis14. Casty15. Raguin 16. Fellous 17. Wynne Very strong in the forwards but as always light in the backs. Players in bold are players I have seen play that look real quality. I dont feel safe with Younis in the side and I dont think dimitri is a fullback, In some ways I would be tempted to use rinaldi at 7 greseque at 6 with bosc at 1 But without doubt I would put seb Raguin in the centres for vince duport seba has played there all year for Catalans and done a great job. Yeh there werte some great players, Creagh i think, Farah? I disagree about the end of season hit-out though. It may be that way for some players but alot of the younger and fringe players would use the oppurtunity to try and push for further rep selection. I doubt it same as the fans to the player the clubs are the most imporatant thing, Ill wager the PMXIII players saw it as a jolly and the NZ players at France, well we know what was happening with that side and its admin |
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Post by Marv on Aug 28, 2008 17:19:20 GMT 10
I was in Beziers this year for the Elite final... one of the worst situated and accessed stadiums I have been to. There is zero public tranports there, buses stof at 5 pm and are a hike to the stadium. Thats that then Remember that FFR has to actually get off their buts and organise something. Thats definatly that then Though it is close to a lot of strip joints. Theres always a positive with you druzik. |
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Post by jim on Aug 28, 2008 18:47:49 GMT 10
I agree I would like to see even more French guys get a shot. My thinking is though that steve bell has been brought in to replace john wilson and Jason Ryles to rpleace Alex Chan so I think you will see a similar self imposed quota on Catalans. OK I'm glad that's the case. I don;t want to see the aussie number growing. So how many are going at the end of the year? Chan, Wilson? any more? because if there isn't they will have more aussies next year because they've signed Shane Perry aswell. I personally think that 2 should be the limit for now. Well I'm not talking 3 until atleast 2015 if Paris but in a good bid or maybe even Lyon. I think Paris is the next best option after Tououse, if RL has 3 teams and 1 each in 2 of the 3 biggest cities in France it is bound to get more publicity. Although It needs to be done right, we don;t want another PSG. Barcalona may be a good option in 2015, I hear they will most likely field a RL team next year. Obviously this could happen but I think the French are too proud than to pack their team with Aussies I hope so! 2,3,4 is plenty. Well mate I aint European for a start But if you think the small town RL attitude is bad in the UK then you should see France!! the people of Perpignan would see it as a slight on them if the test was not in their town, never mind a strategic neutral venue. I'm sorry if European offended you I just assumed since England is in Europe Englishmen are Europeans. OK then It's hard to comprehend how people can consider 50 miles not worth the effort but if I suppose that is the attitude in France it may not be wise to take a game away from Perpignan. well this touches on another arguament, if the organisers of the WC dont take the comp seriously then why should the Aussie public?  It'd like to be able to argue with that  I think the sales are still pretty good knowing Sydneys attitude. The centenary test had only sold 7,500 tickets about 3 days before the game so alot of Sydney-siders will not see the need to pre-purchase. TBH even if 20/25k have been pre-sold I would still expect a sell out - I hope I am right. I think something should be done to get people to Pool B and C games in Sydney, I would suggest 50% off Parra, Penrith, Central Coast and Canberra games when you buy a ticket to ENG V NZ, AUS V NZ or the Sydney semi. Or if you buy tickets to 2 games you can get btickets to the Pool B or C game of your choice. Looks likely that brisbane will sell out the semi before too long aswell. Quick word on Wakefeild its not often a club like wakey gets to CC semi - it was big for their support. Small town mentality again mate, it happens in Sydney it happens in wigan it happens in Perpignan, and most RL fans know that England are gonna steamroller Wales, who TBH will be a poor side. so what do you suggest we do, you cant change the mentality of a 100 years of tradition Well it all comes back to making more teams competetive I suppose. Catalans have helped with France and Celtic will help with Wales hopefully. Wales aren't great but hopefully they can put up a good game. I still think this game can sell out but ticket offers and marketing would need to be done which may be beyond RFL. I dont feel safe with Younis in the side and I dont think dimitri is a fullback, In some ways I would be tempted to use rinaldi at 7 greseque at 6 with bosc at 1 But without doubt I would put seb Raguin in the centres for vince duport seba has played there all year for Catalans and done a great job. I don't mind Younis TBH, I have seen him 3 times this year and he looks solid to me. I would rather see either of these 5 at fullback (not sure which can play fullback) than Clayton - Murphy, Khattabi, Pelo, Duport or the other French winger who plays for Catalans who's name has escaped me  . I agree with regarding Raguin, switch him with Anselme. I doubt it same as the fans to the player the clubs are the most imporatant thing, Ill wager the PMXIII players saw it as a jolly and the NZ players at France, well we know what was happening with that side and its admin Maybe so, I still think some players would relish the oppurtunity. A great performance in a game like this could earn selection for higher honuors. |
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Post by Marv on Aug 28, 2008 19:22:21 GMT 10
OK I'm glad that's the case. I don;t want to see the aussie number growing. So how many are going at the end of the year? Chan, Wilson? any more? because if there isn't they will have more aussies next year because they've signed Shane Perry aswell. Perry is not confirmed yet unless you know something i dont mate? Chan and Wilson will stay for 1 more year but like Crocker I think there there to help along the youngsters more than anything. And the club I think rather than mick potter has a self imposed quota of 8 so I dont think Walters will change that. Well I'm not talking 3 until atleast 2015 if Paris but in a good bid or maybe even Lyon. I think Paris is the next best option after Tououse, if RL has 3 teams and 1 each in 2 of the 3 biggest cities in France it is bound to get more publicity. Although It needs to be done right, we don;t want another PSG. Barcalona may be a good option in 2015, I hear they will most likely field a RL team next year. Its not a French thing i just dont think the SL should be any bigger than 16 teams for the forseeable future, Paris is a no-no AFAIK and as far as Barca goes it seems to be pie in the sky regards SL for me I'm sorry if European offended you I just assumed since England is in Europe Englishmen are Europeans. Not offended mate  We just feel strongly about our English/British Identity and things like our currency and customs daft things like inches and pounds instead of CMeters and Kilos! In some ways I like Europe but in others I'm glad were seperated by water, Ill leave it at that before we go miles off topic!! OK then It's hard to comprehend how people can consider 50 miles not worth the effort but if I suppose that is the attitude in France it may not be wise to take a game away from Perpignan. Well the best way to describe it jim is to look at Sydney lots of clubs with their own intersts in a (fairly) small area England and French RL is very much like this because the towns are so close they hate eachother twice as much, I have been at GB games where Saints fans are chanting songs about how much they hate leeds fans ALL GAME I think the sales are still pretty good knowing Sydneys attitude. The centenary test had only sold 7,500 tickets about 3 days before the game so alot of Sydney-siders will not see the need to pre-purchase. TBH even if 20/25k have been pre-sold I would still expect a sell out - I hope I am right. Probly mate the other thing is RL fans have a habbit of the last minute thing all over the world! I think something should be done to get people to Pool B and C games in Sydney, I would suggest 50% off Parra, Penrith, Central Coast and Canberra games when you buy a ticket to ENG V NZ, AUS V NZ or the Sydney semi. Or if you buy tickets to 2 games you can get btickets to the Pool B or C game of your choice. Sound idea I have said from the start these games will not sell out, while I cant think of many better things than France v Fiji or Tonga V Samoa for whatever reason they jus dont exite the average RL fan of Castleford or Canberra Looks likely that brisbane will sell out the semi before too long aswell. Yeah im confident with Brissie, from what people say anyway. Well it all comes back to making more teams competetive I suppose. Catalans have helped with France and Celtic will help with Wales hopefully. Wales aren't great but hopefully they can put up a good game. I still think this game can sell out but ticket offers and marketing would need to be done which may be beyond RFL. Hope so, Wales need to look for the Future, this game is purely for England benefit for me, wales will have nothing. The game will not sell out in a million simply because of the G/F and people dont have the money to do everything, a warm up agains the worst welsh team for decades (thats saying something) wont take their fancy I don't mind Younis TBH, I have seen him 3 times this year and he looks solid to me. Anything but solid, defence is atrocious and poor under the high ball awful play and thankfully on his way at the end of the year, according to cliff on TRL and he should know I would rather see either of these 5 at fullback (not sure which can play fullback) than Clayton - Murphy, Khattabi, Pelo, Duport or the other French winger who plays for Catalans who's name has escaped me . I agree with regarding Raguin, switch him with Anselme. Cyril Stacul too, Freddie Vaccari has just signed for dragons from Toulouse too, TBH trent Clayton has to be the no1 as it stands the other guys are wingers i reckon and because of clint they aint gonna get a look in at 1 for dragons Maybe so, I still think some players would relish the oppurtunity. A great performance in a game like this could earn selection for higher honuors. Possibly jim, but im not sure. |
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Post by Druzik on Sept 1, 2008 19:32:15 GMT 10
Well the best way to describe it jim is to look at Sydney lots of clubs with their own intersts in a (fairly) small area England and French RL is very much like this because the towns are so close they hate eachother twice as much, I have been at GB games where Saints fans are chanting songs about how much they hate leeds fans ALL GAME Walking out of wembley Sts fans to show some consilation and comraderie with the Hull fans (and all others) were doing "if you all hate Wigan Clap your hands" chant. |
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Post by jim on Dec 3, 2008 22:14:20 GMT 10
After the English dissapointment at the WC I think I'll revise my schedule. Hopefully the real schedule will be out befiore years end but I'mnot confident of that. I think I heard the RLif was having a meeting in january or Febuary next year so that's probably the best bet. Anyway... W1  ENG V AUS - Emirates Stadium, London - 60,000  FRA V NZL - Stade Gilbert Brutus - 14,000 W2  AUS V NZL - St. Davids Stadium, Cardiff - 30,000  FRA V ENG - Parc Des Princes, Paris - 49,000 W3  ENG V NZL - Elland Road, Leeds - 40,000  FRA V AUS - Stade Ernest Wallon, Toulouse - 18,000 W4  Final - CoM Stadium, Manchester - 48,000 4N 3rd V EC 1st - EC Host 4N 4th V EC 2nd - EC Host The game in Cardiff is asuming they will play all games in the NH which I think is the plan. Also I would have a Wales EC game beforehand. The game in London is assuming we can get a hold of Arsenals Stadium, which we probably can't . The game in Paris is in a big stadium for lack of a better option. |
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Post by Druzik on Dec 3, 2008 22:47:58 GMT 10
Jim, Jim, Jim,...
Count the soccer stadiums out right now. If games are to be played in October/November then the Premiership clubs will be in full swing and there is no way that they will allow a rugby game on their pitches... they always claim that rugby players destroy the pitces. The FA has a policy not to allow any other sports to be played on their premiership club pitches within 2 or three days of a match. It wont happen.
In London You need to take the Plunge and have it at Wembley. It the national RL stadium and any england game should be played there accordingly.
City of manchester stadium... also I cannot see this premiership club letting it happen. The only soccer stadium that may be secured is Elland road.
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Post by jim on Dec 4, 2008 21:39:05 GMT 10
Jim, Jim, Jim,... Count the soccer stadiums out right now. If games are to be played in October/November then the Premiership clubs will be in full swing and there is no way that they will allow a rugby game on their pitches... they always claim that rugby players destroy the pitces. The FA has a policy not to allow any other sports to be played on their premiership club pitches within 2 or three days of a match. It wont happen. In London You need to take the Plunge and have it at Wembley. It the national RL stadium and any england game should be played there accordingly. City of manchester stadium... also I cannot see this premiership club letting it happen. The only soccer stadium that may be secured is Elland road. I don't think CoM is out of the question but I do agree with you about Wembley, may aswell have it there as we have 0-0.01% chance of getting a more suitably sized Emirates. The thing is I think the RFL need to bite the bullet and go big, 40-50,000 at Wembley may not look great but it would generate more money than 25,000 at JJB for example. A few soccer grounds will have to be used because any decent sized stadium in England will most likely have a soccer team playing at it so I don't think "Counting out Soccer stadiums" is the way to go. When you think about evcen the decent sized stadiums SL clubs use are also used for Soccer, KC Stadium, JJB stadium etc. Back to schedule I think the scheduling of some matches is crucial, Australia V England needs to be on the opening week and NZ V England needs to be on the last weekend in a fairly big stadium because a betting man would suggest it will be the battle for a spot in the final and you would imagine the English fans would turn out for a "must win" game against the World Champions. |
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Post by Druzik on Dec 4, 2008 22:01:25 GMT 10
I don't think CoM is out of the question but I do agree with you about Wembley, may aswell have it there as we have 0-0.01% chance of getting a more suitably sized Emirates. CoM stadium is the home ground of Man city... and EPL club. You will have the same issues there as you will with Emirates or any other stadium that is in the EPL or championships. The FA will not allow it. The thing is I think the RFL need to bite the bullet and go big, 40-50,000 at Wembley may not look great but it would generate more money than 25,000 at JJB for example. A few soccer grounds will have to be used because any decent sized stadium in England will most likely have a soccer team playing at it so I don't think "Counting out Soccer stadiums" is the way to go. When you think about evcen the decent sized stadiums SL clubs use are also used for Soccer, KC Stadium, JJB stadium etc. Yes that is true with wembley... but remember we have had 70,000 in wembley for test in the past. Its not unheard of. Do a double header I say. Personally I would have the 4N final in there... make it a festival of RL weekend. MOst soccer pitches are too small for RL. you need about 120m for a RL field where as most soccer pitches are 100m. Back to schedule I think the scheduling of some matches is crucial, Australia V England needs to be on the opening week and NZ V England needs to be on the last weekend in a fairly big stadium because a betting man would suggest it will be the battle for a spot in the final and you would imagine the English fans would turn out for a "must win" game against the World Champions. Yes pretty much. Agree here. |
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Post by Marv on Dec 5, 2008 18:12:45 GMT 10
CoM has been used before for 3N games, I watched GB v Aus there in 04 ( i think) and one point on the wembley issue, 50k in wembley would look ok, IMO not as good as a full CoM stadium but you have to look at the costs possibly incurred by using wembley for what would be a similar crowd 40k + CoM, 50k + wembley
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It'd like to be able to argue with that 
. I agree with regarding Raguin, switch him with Anselme.