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Post by muffdiver on May 15, 2009 2:18:51 GMT 10
Talking of Aussie soccer I notice some of the Sydney teams have similar names to some rl teams eg. Manly United, St George Budapest, Sydney Tigers, Bankstown (as in Canterbury-Bankstown) - is there any connection between the soccer & rugby teams or is it just a co-incidence?
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Post by Ryan N on May 15, 2009 9:47:53 GMT 10
Talking of Aussie soccer I notice some of the Sydney teams have similar names to some rl teams eg. Manly United, St George Budapest, Sydney Tigers, Bankstown (as in Canterbury-Bankstown) - is there any connection between the soccer & rugby teams or is it just a co-incidence? Purely co-incidental. Manly, St.George etc. are all just place names.St.george Budapest I would assume is an ethnic based soccer club, similar to Marconi or whatever they are. They're in the Sydney comp but, I don't think the players would get paid or anything, the A-League is basically the only professional comp we have. |
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Post by Marv on May 15, 2009 17:08:09 GMT 10
Thats it mate the game can even be played with one bloke and a wall, the same cannot be said for rugby. Football is so simple. Thats not to say the marketing guys involved in the football dont do a good job, they do, the manage to suck me into the most meaningless of games some nights. The marketing people have been so successful they've virtually taken over the media. Even in the off season football dominates the back pages. Years ago, the Sunday after the challenge cup final, the rugby would be the main story on the back page - not any more. Same with other major events like the 6 nations or test cricket (unless England win the Ashes). Only the Wimbledon final can push soccer off the back page - and even that is doubtful in a World Cup year. Thats right. Its hard to put into words for our Aussie freinds just how much hold Soccer has over the media here, as long as that is the case Rugby (either code) will be a distant second, possibly third as cricket comes to the fore in our summer. |
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Post by England 3 Lions on May 16, 2009 16:02:27 GMT 10
Football has been played in Australia since the 19th Century. If my memory is correct, then Australia was one of the first nations that was recognised by the original governing body for international football... I know, but Im sure you also know that Football didnt really take off until the 50s and 60s when mass immigration came to the fore. You didnt have a league until the 70s. True. I have read this elsewhere, I belive clubs have even been banned from using names which suggest they are "european". I hope the Federal Government bans football in Australia. The Croatians and Serbs who follow the sport in Australia are always at war with one another. Yeah I know, we get the games on UKTV Its amazing how many Italian/eastern european names you hear. I cannot identify with the team for this reason. Each to their own, I would rather kick my nanna than watch AFL! I don't mind watching Australian rules football when the Brisbane Lions are flogging the Victorian clubs. |
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Post by Druzik on May 16, 2009 16:07:39 GMT 10
AFL - Punt monkeys.
Their militant fans and admin have put me right off that sport. I'd rather play chicked with a taliban fighter than have to deal with them.
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Post by England 3 Lions on May 16, 2009 16:13:18 GMT 10
Years ago, the Sunday after the challenge cup final, the rugby would be the main story on the back page - not any more. Same with other major events like the 6 nations or test cricket (unless England win the Ashes). Only the Wimbledon final can push soccer off the back page - and even that is doubtful in a World Cup year. Sad to hear about rugby league's plight. A greater amount of the English are turning away from the UK's more liberal papers. They're sick of the leftist bias that is shown in many of them. For this reason, the internet is becoming a popular choice for news and information. The RFL should capitalise on this by increating its presence on the internet. By creating an interactive portal and IPTV channels of its own, it'll be able to promote itself in a way that is impossible with the conventional media. Reaching out to school children is the key. Setting up features for children on its website will help lure in the youth. Its current site has games on it for children, but I think this could be made more interactive. Setting it up so that children can talk to one another, even if it is limited to juniors who are registered with the RFL, will help the rugby league community in the UK grow. |
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Post by England 3 Lions on May 16, 2009 16:16:59 GMT 10
AFL - Punt monkeys. Their militant fans and admin have put me right off that sport. I'd rather play chicked with a taliban fighter than have to deal with them. I've only been to one AFL match. The Lions and Eagles were playing on the day. I went to the game with my North Queensland Cowboys jersey. I bet that pissed the Australian rules fans off! The thing I liked the most about the event was the fact we were able to run onto the field after the game. The NRL and Super League should adopt the policy. |
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Post by Marv on May 16, 2009 22:47:24 GMT 10
I hope the Federal Government bans football in Australia. The Croatians and Serbs who follow the sport in Australia are always at war with one another.. The craots and serbs are at war everywhere! I cannot identify with the team for this reason. I guess thats a fair point but it happens in all sports and in all countries. I don't mind watching Australian rules football when the Brisbane Lions are flogging the Victorian clubs.  |
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Post by muffdiver on May 16, 2009 23:20:37 GMT 10
I reckon, eventually, soccer will become the number 1 sport in Australia. The reason - IMMIGRATION. New foreigners will have no knowledge or love of rl whether they be European or Asian but they will know soccer. Plus they breed faster than the indigenous Aussies. Even incoming Anglo-Saxons are more likely to prefer soccer these days. And with the globalisation of the media soccer, of a high satandard, can be watched all day everyday. Better jump on the bandwagon now boys and get those Roar or Glory shirts on!  |
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Post by Druzik on May 16, 2009 23:36:42 GMT 10
I reckon, eventually, soccer will become the number 1 sport in Australia. The reason - IMMIGRATION. New foreigners will have no knowledge or love of rl whether they be European or Asian but they will know soccer. Plus they breed faster than the indigenous Aussies. Even incoming Anglo-Saxons are more likely to prefer soccer these days. Well there is a small issue there, australia has had a massive migrant population from europe for over 100 years and it hasnt take, in fact most of them tend to really take on League and AFL... a few of the Serbs and croats and italiand have gonr with soccer, but many of the other migrants have gone with league or other sports. Plus now there is a surge in PIs coming to Aus and they are basically League or Union fans. Many of the english I have known who moved to aus the last 10 years have ditched soccer and gone to league. I remember a Mexican phd student I had a few years back, I took him to a League game, and hes been going since, he has no interest in soccer anymore, says its boring in comparison to League... and says that Mexico is really deprived of good sports. See Marv was saying in a previous thread that us aussies dont understand what league has up against soccer in the UK... by the same token I dont think you realise what soccer and any sport has up against in Oz. The australian mentality is to give everyone a go, let the masses decide and not be bullshited into something, its why Union and soccer dont do well, aussies see through the bull shit and on the pitch and TV dont devliver an exciting product. Given an even playing fiels, soccer would fail globally. Muff  You know we got into the soccer WC and had the bandwagon jumpers and they jumped right off afterwards. |
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Post by muffdiver on May 17, 2009 20:54:58 GMT 10
Was up in Cairns last summer (August) and saw loads of kids playing soccer. Also saw hockey & AFL pitches - no rugby though, is rl not big at the top end?
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Post by jim on May 17, 2009 21:07:56 GMT 10
Was up in Cairns last summer (August) and saw loads of kids playing soccer. Also saw hockey & AFL pitches - no rugby though, is rl not big at the top end? I think you'll find Cairns is Rugby League number one, daylight second. Much like the rest of Queensland. There are loads of Kids playing soccer everywhere, i played for 4 years when i was a young fellow and most of my friends did too. Now I know 1 person who plays at senior level, alot of kids move from soccer to RL late primary school. Soccer is good fun for young kids and very safe so it's a good option for the parents but most players eventually drop off. Soccer has the best junior numbers in America I believe for similar reasons. |
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Post by England 3 Lions on May 18, 2009 15:54:45 GMT 10
A lot of juniors play football because they're disallowed from playing rugby league. Most primary schools in Queensland disallow their students from playing contact sports during the luncheon interval. Since football is a non-contact sport, the kids end up playing it. When the kids are allowed to play contact sports when they enter high school, then all of the sporty ones, bar the migrants and wimps, go on to play rugby league.
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Post by Ryan N on May 18, 2009 18:41:20 GMT 10
Yeah, everyone that plays soccer when they're older here are called wimps haha. They all change to league, but most of them have a sook and don't play league, and give up on soccer and do nothing. It's not marketable to the Aussie viewing public anyway, without the fans it'll get nowhere. We've already got the AFL/Rugby culture instilled in us. It'll be decades before it's erased.
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Post by Marv on May 20, 2009 19:40:53 GMT 10
Is that why the socceroos sell out every game they play at home against reasonable quality opposition?
Dan, soccer is huge worldwide because of its simplicity, not because of any sinister underlyings.
Its huge in Aus, it may never overtake RL but you cannot deny its huge. Top Aussie players play in every European league, the A league has huge backers that could put the NRL to shame.
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You know we got into the soccer WC and had the bandwagon jumpers and they jumped right off afterwards.