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Post by Ryan N on May 12, 2009 17:43:02 GMT 10
I don't know why people are so crazy over football. The game bores me senseless. No matter how many times I try to see the "appeal" behind football, I end up feeling confused and bored. I don't mind watching darts, snooker, lawn bowls and pool, but I become restless and agitated whenever I try to watch a full game of football. Perhaps the riots associated with soccer fans are derived from their frustration over the game's boringness? I can see how a fan would lose their temper.  Yes it sucks, in a whole game they only ever score like once or twice. Yeah, they riot because it's boring, but it's a subliminal thing, that's why they go back, they don't know it's boring, and they don't know why they riot. |
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Post by England 3 Lions on May 12, 2009 17:58:05 GMT 10
I don't know why people are so crazy over football. The game bores me senseless. No matter how many times I try to see the "appeal" behind football, I end up feeling confused and bored. I don't mind watching darts, snooker, lawn bowls and pool, but I become restless and agitated whenever I try to watch a full game of football. Perhaps the riots associated with soccer fans are derived from their frustration over the game's boringness? I can see how a fan would lose their temper. Yes it sucks, in a whole game they only ever score like once or twice. Yeah, they riot because it's boring, but it's a subliminal thing, that's why they go back, they don't know it's boring, and they don't know why they riot. I theorise that the popularity behind soccer is derived from the fact it was the first professional code of football to spread around the world. The sport was able to promote itself to the working class citizens of Europe, South America, Asia and Africa during the 19th Century. This allowed it to gain a monopoly in just about every corner of the English Empire. Since the majority of the world was hooked on football BEFORE rugby league came into existence, it made it hard for rugby league to grow outside of its heartland areas -- people rarely give up on something they've avidly followed for decades. Rugby union mostly appealed to the upper class because it was an amateur sport run by snots. Due to this, it was never a threat to football, and vice versa. Rugby league was introduced to PNG, Queensland and NSW around the same time that Australian rules football was. In fact, rugby league was introduced to all three regions just 2 to 10 years after Australian rules made its way to them. Rugby league ended up killing off Australian rules football in all three areas. The only areas where Australian rules football remained king was in the southern states, which happened to take up the game long before rugby league came into existence. Football has no chance in hell of competing with rugby league in PNG, Queensland and NSW. It might draw a lot of attention in these areas when internationals are played, but there will never be much interest for the local clubs. |
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Post by Druzik on May 12, 2009 18:05:09 GMT 10
I don't know why people are so crazy over football. The game bores me senseless. No matter how many times I try to see the "appeal" behind football, I end up feeling confused and bored. I don't mind watching darts, snooker, lawn bowls and pool, but I become restless and agitated whenever I try to watch a full game of football. Perhaps the riots associated with soccer fans are derived from their frustration over the game's boringness? I can see how a fan would lose their temper. Yes it sucks, in a whole game they only ever score like once or twice. Yeah, they riot because it's boring, but it's a subliminal thing, that's why they go back, they don't know it's boring, and they don't know why they riot. ... and they will call the riots and stuff as passion for the game and team... rubbish its just thuggery as far as I am concerned. But I find soccer being a good cure for insomnia for me.  |
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Post by Marv on May 12, 2009 18:15:21 GMT 10
[quote author=druzik board=othersport thread=632 post=7920 time=1241768787
An Aussie taking the piss out of our place names ..... that's rich!!!
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Post by Marv on May 12, 2009 18:23:22 GMT 10
Do you think Bury or Shrewsbury will get out of League 1 Druzik?  They're in League 2 any way. Right? Yeah man. my mistake. |
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Post by Marv on May 12, 2009 18:25:32 GMT 10
Yes it sucks, in a whole game they only ever score like once or twice. Yeah, they riot because it's boring, but it's a subliminal thing, that's why they go back, they don't know it's boring, and they don't know why they riot. ... and they will call the riots and stuff as passion for the game and team... rubbish its just thuggery as far as I am concerned. But I find soccer being a good cure for insomnia for me. Im many ways I agree many games of football are boring and can be very tense, the fans behaviour cannot be condoned, in the last few weeks I have seen numerous incidents from Chelsea and Man U players acting like babies to fans confronting Team coaches on the pitch, Its one thing that makes me proud to be an RL fan |
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Post by muffdiver on May 14, 2009 4:59:00 GMT 10
I don't know why people are so crazy over football. The game bores me senseless. No matter how many times I try to see the "appeal" behind football, I end up feeling confused and bored. I don't mind watching darts, snooker, lawn bowls and pool, but I become restless and agitated whenever I try to watch a full game of football. Perhaps the riots associated with soccer fans are derived from their frustration over the game's boringness? I can see how a fan would lose their temper. It is such a simple game to play - you don't need any specialised equipment. The rules are straight forward. People can get together and have a good competetive game. Games like rugby are too easily dominated by 1 or 2 people at park level and so are less attractive. Many soccer games are boring, especially as the importance of the game increases, but that can happen in rl as well. I remember watching Saints v Workington in the '60s - driving rain, 1 try, Saints lose 5-6, terrible game. |
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Post by Marv on May 14, 2009 17:14:45 GMT 10
Thats it mate the game can even be played with one bloke and a wall, the same cannot be said for rugby. Football is so simple.
Thats not to say the marketing guys involved in the football dont do a good job, they do, the manage to suck me into the most meaningless of games some nights.
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Post by England 3 Lions on May 14, 2009 17:21:03 GMT 10
I don't know why people are so crazy over football. The game bores me senseless. No matter how many times I try to see the "appeal" behind football, I end up feeling confused and bored. I don't mind watching darts, snooker, lawn bowls and pool, but I become restless and agitated whenever I try to watch a full game of football. Perhaps the riots associated with soccer fans are derived from their frustration over the game's boringness? I can see how a fan would lose their temper. It is such a simple game to play - you don't need any specialised equipment. The rules are straight forward. People can get together and have a good competetive game. Games like rugby are too easily dominated by 1 or 2 people at park level and so are less attractive. Many soccer games are boring, especially as the importance of the game increases, but that can happen in rl as well. I remember watching Saints v Workington in the '60s - driving rain, 1 try, Saints lose 5-6, terrible game. One thing I noticed when I was young was that the more sensitive children would play soccer, whereas the tougher kids and the bullies would play rugby league. I suppose the kids who were bullied would have avoided rugby league for this reason. |
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Post by England 3 Lions on May 14, 2009 17:29:30 GMT 10
Thats it mate the game can even be played with one bloke and a wall, the same cannot be said for rugby. Football is so simple. Thats not to say the marketing guys involved in the football dont do a good job, they do, the manage to suck me into the most meaningless of games some nights. The public relations department for Football Federation Australia and FIFA have failed to draw me into their sport, but that might be derived from the fact that their presence in Australia was minuscule when I was a kid. When I have tried to develop a liking for football, such as when I was surrounded by football fanatics at high school and during the 2002/2006 World Cups, I realised that I'll never feel any passion for the game. No matter how hard I try to like football, I just cannot do so -- it is the biggest, most popular sport in the world, but it means nothing to me. If I had the choice of watching a suburban rugby league match from Sydney or an international football match between Brazil and France, I'd choose the former. |
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Post by Marv on May 14, 2009 17:34:30 GMT 10
One thing I noticed when I was young was that the more sensitive children would play soccer, whereas the tougher kids and the bullies would play rugby league. I suppose the kids who were bullied would have avoided rugby league for this reason. Maybe, but in the UK some of the guys we used to play RL with were "a bit soft" I thought these guys chose to play RL because it might make them look a bit tougher around school e.t.c I played both at school and in the UK you would be hard pressed to find an RL player who hasnt played soccer at some level as a kid or adult. |
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Post by Marv on May 14, 2009 17:39:22 GMT 10
The public relations department for Football Federation Australia and FIFA have failed to draw me into their sport, but that might be derived from the fact that their presence in Australia was minuscule when I was a kid. True, but in saying that you have to say they have done a magnificent job in promoting a sport that almost didnt exist at the start of our lifetime to a sport that is challenging the established sports in Aus. When I have tried to develop a liking for football, such as when I was surrounded by football fanatics at high school and during the 2002/2006 World Cups, I realised that I'll never feel any passion for the game. No matter how hard I try to like football, I just cannot do so -- it is the biggest, most popular sport in the world, but it means nothing to me. If I had the choice of watching a suburban rugby league match from Sydney or an international football match between Brazil and France, I'd choose the former. I would much rather choose to watch Rugby league mate, Im with you here, in fact this year I watched a Championship game over a football Prem game earlier this year. And If Im honest I would rather watch a Sydney RL game over Brazil V France at Soccer. I prefer a lower level of football with a little more bite to it. |
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Post by England 3 Lions on May 14, 2009 18:08:15 GMT 10
The public relations department for Football Federation Australia and FIFA have failed to draw me into their sport, but that might be derived from the fact that their presence in Australia was minuscule when I was a kid. True, but in saying that you have to say they have done a magnificent job in promoting a sport that almost didnt exist at the start of our lifetime to a sport that is challenging the established sports in Aus. Football has been played in Australia since the 19th Century. If my memory is correct, then Australia was one of the first nations that was recognised by the original governing body for international football. The defunct National Soccer League launched itself long before Australian rules football and rugby league thought about expanding their product into new territories. The problem was the game's clubs, players and supporters were overrun by eastern Europeans and Italians, thus meaning they did not appeal to the rest of Australia's Caucasian population. The NSL was shut down because many of the clubs were created by ethnics who didn't want to associate with other ethnics/Australians. The majority of football players in Australia are of eastern European/Italian heritage. Only a few of the players from the Australian Soccceroos have Anglo-Saxon surnames. When I went to school, the majority of persons who played football shared lineage links with eastern Europem Italy, the middle east, Africa, South America and Asia. When I have tried to develop a liking for football, such as when I was surrounded by football fanatics at high school and during the 2002/2006 World Cups, I realised that I'll never feel any passion for the game. No matter how hard I try to like football, I just cannot do so -- it is the biggest, most popular sport in the world, but it means nothing to me. If I had the choice of watching a suburban rugby league match from Sydney or an international football match between Brazil and France, I'd choose the former. I would much rather choose to watch Rugby league mate, Im with you here, in fact this year I watched a Championship game over a football Prem game earlier this year. And If Im honest I would rather watch a Sydney RL game over Brazil V France at Soccer. I prefer a lower level of football with a little more bite to it. I'd rather watch Australian rules football than football. I just don't think there's anything more boring than football. |
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Post by Marv on May 14, 2009 18:21:53 GMT 10
Football has been played in Australia since the 19th Century. If my memory is correct, then Australia was one of the first nations that was recognised by the original governing body for international football... I know, but Im sure you also know that Football didnt really take off until the 50s and 60s when mass immigration came to the fore. You didnt have a league until the 70s. The defunct National Soccer League launched itself long before Australian rules football and rugby league thought about expanding their product into new territories. The problem was the game's clubs, players and supporters were overrun by eastern Europeans and Italians, thus meaning they did not appeal to the rest of Australia's Caucasian population. The NSL was shut down because many of the clubs were created by ethnics who didn't want to associate with other ethnics/Australians.. I have read this elsewhere, I belive clubs have even been banned from using names which suggest they are "european". The majority of football players in Australia are of eastern European/Italian heritage. Only a few of the players from the Australian Soccceroos have Anglo-Saxon surnames. When I went to school, the majority of persons who played football shared lineage links with eastern Europem Italy, the middle east, Africa, South America and Asia. Yeah I know, we get the games on UKTV Its amazing how many Italian/eastern european names you hear. I'd rather watch Australian rules football than football. I just don't think there's anything more boring than football. Each to their own, I would rather kick my nanna than watch AFL! |
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Post by muffdiver on May 15, 2009 2:08:51 GMT 10
Thats it mate the game can even be played with one bloke and a wall, the same cannot be said for rugby. Football is so simple. Thats not to say the marketing guys involved in the football dont do a good job, they do, the manage to suck me into the most meaningless of games some nights. The marketing people have been so successful they've virtually taken over the media. Even in the off season football dominates the back pages. Years ago, the Sunday after the challenge cup final, the rugby would be the main story on the back page - not any more. Same with other major events like the 6 nations or test cricket (unless England win the Ashes). Only the Wimbledon final can push soccer off the back page - and even that is doubtful in a World Cup year. |
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