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Post by jim on May 23, 2009 15:20:58 GMT 10
will be good if gooroka gets a game. a great decision to hold the tournament in PNG in my opinion. heres my opinion on the top 10 nationas come 2013 world cup: 1.Australia 2.New Zealand 3. England 4. France 5. Wales 6. Papua New Guinia 7. Fiji 8. Tonga 9. USA 10. Lebanon It's a long way out but I think will be something similar to that. 1. Australia
2. England
3. NZ
4. France
5. Wales
6. PNG
7. Fiji
8. Ireland
9. USA
10. Scotland
11. Samoa
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Post by Druzik on May 23, 2009 15:39:18 GMT 10
will be good if gooroka gets a game. a great decision to hold the tournament in PNG in my opinion. heres my opinion on the top 10 nationas come 2013 world cup: 1.Australia 2.New Zealand 3. England 4. France 5. Wales 6. Papua New Guinia 7. Fiji 8. Tonga 9. USA 10. Lebanon It's a long way out but I think will be something similar to that. 1. Australia
2. England
3. NZ
4. France
5. Wales
6. PNG
7. Fiji
8. Ireland
9. USA
10. Scotland
11. Samoa
12. Tonga13. Lebanon 14. Russia 15. Serbia The last 3 and Jamaica would be vying for the last few spots. These are nations on the rise. |
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Post by sportsmad on May 24, 2009 9:54:17 GMT 10
why jamaica? i read something about them on the RLEF website. they seem to be doing the RLIF's job. this is a greast thing to see as the RLIF is incompetent. as you no doubt would know they toured pakistan, japan, and a couple of middle eastern countries. why is the RLIF not doing this!!
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Post by Druzik on May 24, 2009 15:24:20 GMT 10
why jamaica? i read something about them on the RLEF website. they seem to be doing the RLIF's job. this is a greast thing to see as the RLIF is incompetent. as you no doubt would know they toured pakistan, japan, and a couple of middle eastern countries. why is the RLIF not doing this!! Jamaica is an established nation now with lots of good home grown locals. They have a 6 team domestic comp thats been now running for about 5-6 years. They desperately are trying to get more internatinals though... if they can get the atlantic nations up then that should give them a good yearl base of games. I would hope a nation or two woudl alos do tour there in the next few years. There is two lines of thoughts you can have here on the RLIF. 1. Either have them run all the internationals and things with the game, or 2. have underneath them regional delegations like the RLEF that cover their own regions and the RLIF worry about rules the WC and any tournamnent that has teams from multi regions like the 4 Nations... My way of doing it would the #2. |
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Post by sportsmad on May 24, 2009 15:47:58 GMT 10
excluding the RLEF what other regional delegators are there? if the RLIF is indeed the number two option in your post i think it will be by default due to kevin rudd and the RLEF taking matters into their own hands caused by the RLIF's lacsidasicle attitude on everything outside of the world cup and four nations (basicaly the money making tournaments). this said i commend them on the world cup itself.
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Post by sportsmad on May 24, 2009 15:51:40 GMT 10
as for jamaica i think thats great to hear. i think i saw results for a game to do with jamaican police or something like that. i agree the atlantic cup needs to come into place as an annual fixture. the distance between the countries is quite large so it might suffer logistical hurdles due to budget restraints. i assume the countries are USA, Jamaica, Japan and South Africa
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Post by Druzik on May 24, 2009 15:58:44 GMT 10
excluding the RLEF what other regional delegators are there? if the RLIF is indeed the number two option in your post i think it will be by default due to kevin rudd and the RLEF taking matters into their own hands caused by the RLIF's lacsidasicle attitude on everything outside of the world cup and four nations (basicaly the money making tournaments). this said i commend them on the world cup itself. Thats just it aside from the RLEF there are no other ines, but there should be and its something that I have suggested to people I have met over the years... bit it all comes back to the fact that the nations dont want it. Europe did and France basically set it up and the RFL fund it, but because its there, its why nations in the mid east and that are wanting to be part of it. If we can get a pacific and atlantic federation then we can pretty much cover the whole League world. Again the other issue for me is that there are too many conflict of interetsin the rlif... look at the 4 guys that 'run it'. Colin love (ARL), Richard Lewis (RFL), David Gallop (NRL), Ray Heffenden (NZRL).... can you now see why those three nations dominate everything there is in international RL. |
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Post by Druzik on May 24, 2009 16:02:15 GMT 10
as for jamaica i think thats great to hear. i think i saw results for a game to do with jamaican police or something like that. i agree the atlantic cup needs to come into place as an annual fixture. the distance between the countries is quite large so it might suffer logistical hurdles due to budget restraints. i assume the countries are USA, Jamaica, Japan and South Africa Jamaica have had the british defence forces tour there as well as the british police. Two of the teams in their domestic comp are a Police team, the Constabulary Knight and the Jamaican Defence Force Warriors I have posted up the Jamaican schedule in the Domestic section, their season starts in two weeks, and next week has its annual Community shield match between the JDF and Dunhaney Sharks. Yes those 4 nations would be the atlantic cup... though questions are weather Japan would be able to make it this year. Arucard will keep us informed on this part. I might be in the US later this year so will look to pop into Jamaica and see a game. |
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Post by sportsmad on May 24, 2009 16:50:49 GMT 10
i think my opinion on the RLIF has become clear in past posts. Bunch of careerists looking out for their own interests rather than anyone elses. The RLEF has only been around since 2003 and look at all the progress theyve achieved already! because theyre looking out for everyones interests, even outside of europe. i aplaud kevin rudd. the idea of separate delgations is a great idea. will it ever happen? who knows.... maybe the RLEF will push for it.
out of curiosity druzik do you know when teh next "full member" of the RLEF will be appointed to join France, England and Russia?
if u do go to america or jamaica make sure u get photos!
Steve Folkes (Former long tem coach of cantebury bulldogs) is now the strengh of fitness conditioner of the west indies cricket team. if the Jamaican rugby league hasnt already contacted him they should. he could provide a world of knowedge and insight. this is a goldrn oportunity for them.
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Post by Druzik on May 24, 2009 17:20:45 GMT 10
i think my opinion on the RLIF has become clear in past posts. Bunch of careerists looking out for their own interests rather than anyone elses. The RLEF has only been around since 2003 and look at all the progress theyve achieved already! because theyre looking out for everyones interests, even outside of europe. i aplaud kevin rudd. the idea of separate delgations is a great idea. will it ever happen? who knows.... maybe the RLEF will push for it. Look most peopl have that view... what you have concluded is only stating what we have been saying for a while. the only person out of the RLIF that has any face saved and is good for the sport is Richard Lewis... he actually is the one who runs the RLEF as well and he is a massive internationalist. I met him in Padus Italy last year, he flew down the day beofre millenium Magic to see Itlay and Germany play to show support, he gave ma quick interview for an article, and then he was flying back that night... Pretty amazing really... and it was off his own money too I was told, so no 'work junket' so to speak... He also is the one responsible for the expansion of the Super elague and its better standing... his background is actually tennis, he played Davis cup for Great britain the late 70s and early 80s, so he knows what is menas to be involved in international sports, and he is also responsible for getting British tennis back upto some sort of prominence. The current full members are Aus, England, NZ, France and Russia... It all comes down to nations that are profitable i.e can put money into the RLIF... yes russia makes a profit from its Rugby league competitions... I would say if the USA for a few years can sustain a good profit they will be brought in ... PNG should also get it just for the fact they are one of the long terms nations, even if they are not rich... but tehy also turn a small profit annually I think. Well videos and Photos will be done  I have a whole host of videos on Youotube already, just do a search for druzik01 and there are over 20 of them of various countries and club games. Jamaica already employ a full time national coach, hes an ex salford coach or player....Dean Thomas, thats his name. They also now have a full tike development officer appointed by the RLEF, Romeo Moonlith, I know him well through email correspondence and hope to meet him in Jamaica later this year. If we can get this forum and my website to turn a small profit or something, I want to sponsor one or two of the scholarships they are setting up next year. |
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Post by jim on May 25, 2009 19:57:51 GMT 10
why jamaica? i read something about them on the RLEF website. they seem to be doing the RLIF's job. this is a greast thing to see as the RLIF is incompetent. as you no doubt would know they toured pakistan, japan, and a couple of middle eastern countries. why is the RLIF not doing this!! Jamaica is an established nation now with lots of good home grown locals. They have a 6 team domestic comp thats been now running for about 5-6 years. They desperately are trying to get more internatinals though... if they can get the atlantic nations up then that should give them a good yearl base of games. I would hope a nation or two woudl alos do tour there in the next few years. There is two lines of thoughts you can have here on the RLIF. 1. Either have them run all the internationals and things with the game, or 2. have underneath them regional delegations like the RLEF that cover their own regions and the RLIF worry about rules the WC and any tournamnent that has teams from multi regions like the 4 Nations... My way of doing it would the #2. They also have a few heritage players in overseas which I'm sure I heard they would look at for in the future and try and establish them as Jamaican players for the WCQ's. |
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Post by jim on May 25, 2009 20:05:43 GMT 10
The current full members are Aus, England, NZ, France and Russia... It all comes down to nations that are profitable i.e can put money into the RLIF... yes russia makes a profit from its Rugby league competitions... I would say if the USA for a few years can sustain a good profit they will be brought in ... PNG should also get it just for the fact they are one of the long terms nations, even if they are not rich... but tehy also turn a small profit annually I think. I thought there was alot more than that, and I also though it was based on infastructure rather than profitability or maybe both. I though to be a full member there had to be a set list of criteria like number of teams etc. Hard to see Wales not becoming a full member very soon. |
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Post by sportsmad on May 25, 2009 20:57:41 GMT 10
if there is a list of criteria i would be very interested in seeing it. why are aus and nz in the european federation?
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Post by Druzik on May 25, 2009 21:18:11 GMT 10
if there is a list of criteria i would be very interested in seeing it. why are aus and nz in the european federation? They are not, I just listed the 5 full member nations in the RLIF... not sure in PNG is in there as well, I think not yet. Anyway I think you and the whole RL woudl love to see the list fo criteria... I'll try and find out from Kevin Rudd. |
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Post by jim on May 25, 2009 21:26:17 GMT 10
if there is a list of criteria i would be very interested in seeing it. why are aus and nz in the european federation? They are not, I just listed the 5 full member nations in the RLIF... not sure in PNG is in there as well, I think not yet. Anyway I think you and the whole RL woudl love to see the list fo criteria... I'll try and find out from Kevin Rudd. The criteria for Associate Membership are as follows: To become an Associate Members of the RLEF each country must fulfill the following minimum criteria: Implementation of a Constitution and Rules that commit the Governing Body to acting in the best interest of Rugby League throughout the whole of their country. Production of an annual financial report. Running a League with at least 4 teams. Implementation of a junior development programme. The production of a Business Development Plan outlining an organisations future aims, including aims to find part funding for staff positions. A communications strategy. An administrators, match officials and coach education strategy. Full and Associate Membership will have to be able to maintain the above minimum criteria and a control will be made every two years to ensure." |
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I have a whole host of videos on Youotube already, just do a search for druzik01 and there are over 20 of them of various countries and club games.