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Post by arh21980 on Nov 21, 2009 22:51:16 GMT 10
With the other major codes in Australia looking to expand should we be doing the same. I believe it's time we look at bringing in the Central Coast Bears, CQ side and then possibly the Reds and Orcas at a later stage Meanwhile Gallop in all his knowledge says not yet and wants less dollars for a TV deal supposedly to let fans know when games are on. I say fuck that!!!!!!! And we go for what we all know what the game is worth
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Post by sportsmad on Nov 22, 2009 10:26:00 GMT 10
yeah i agree. we need to go all out to secure a similar figure to what the enemy (AFL) is going for. unless firm scheduling gives a high chance of increasing crowds by at least 25% i dont back this mentality (although membership might give us this anyway). this is the most important deal is the games history. we cant screw it up.
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Post by Druzik on Nov 22, 2009 11:32:20 GMT 10
I used to be a supported of David Gallop, but at the moment he has made some bad choices and undervalued what we have badly.
I disagree on the Orcas there anthony, I dont think we need another Kiwi team, they need to look at improving their local comp.
But for me the expansion needs to be Perth, Central coast, Central queensaldn and a Darwin team.
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Post by supersteve on Nov 22, 2009 14:32:32 GMT 10
Im still a supporter of him. I think all in all hes done a pretty good job. I dont think anyones actually ruled out expansion, I believe a lot of it just depends on what broadcasters want come 2012. Perth is a must, and either CQ or CC Bears would have to be the other IMO. I thoroughly agree with what Gallop said in that other codes are rushing around putting dots on maps without doing the hard yards, and RL has definately learnt the hard way that its not the way to go. You do it the right way, the Titans are a raging success, especially considering the spectacular failures the predecessors were.
IMO, it is much better to wait a few years and expand the right way then to go in guns blazing just for the sake of it. Do the grass-roots work, build the team from there up, not from the top down.
In terms of our next TV deal im sure Gallop is after as much money as we can get, and I do think itd be great to have a locked in schedule. AFL doesnt have to pander to the networks, and nor should we. Say the next deal lasts 6 years, and a fixed schedule costs us 50 million like Gallop suggests, that is 8.33M per year for a fixed schedule. I think we would easily make that up in terms of increased crowd and membership between the 16, or possibly 18 teams by that time.
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Post by sportsmad on Nov 23, 2009 5:23:40 GMT 10
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Post by Kiwi fan on Dec 11, 2009 17:33:45 GMT 10
I think with the other 3 codes all expanding we shouldn't. 2 new AFL teams, 4 new soccer teams and one new rugby team is a lot of new teams. We don't want to overload the market. Let's see how successful the other codes are and then we can decide what we should do. If we can "hold" Western Sydney and the Gold Coast from AFL then we will be in a great position to move the game forward. Expansion is not as easy as flicking a switch and just going for it.
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Post by Druzik on Dec 12, 2009 9:10:23 GMT 10
I think with the other 3 codes all expanding we shouldn't. 2 new AFL teams, 4 new soccer teams and one new rugby team is a lot of new teams. We don't want to overload the market. Let's see how successful the other codes are and then we can decide what we should do. If we can "hold" Western Sydney and the Gold Coast from AFL then we will be in a great position to move the game forward. Expansion is not as easy as flicking a switch and just going for it. You are correct its not as easy, super league showed that, but sitting on your laurels isnt that great either.
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