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Post by supersteve on Jun 23, 2009 15:38:03 GMT 10
LOL,
QLD arent the sole offenders here.
Jarryd Hayne is Fijian, Feletei Mateo wants to play for NSW. The Origin eligibilty rules have to change.
Does anyone know who Dane Laurie and Jamal Idris have pledged their allegiances to?
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Post by sportsmad on Jun 23, 2009 17:01:54 GMT 10
im pretty sure theyre aboriginal. i remember the aboriginal v maories game before the rlws opening match. i thought dane laurie was going to stab someone with his spere during that warcry. hes pretty passionate about his heretige
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Post by arh21980 on Jun 23, 2009 17:21:35 GMT 10
LOL, QLD arent the sole offenders here. Jarryd Hayne is Fijian, Feletei Mateo wants to play for NSW. The Origin eligibilty rules have to change. Does anyone know who Dane Laurie and Jamal Idris have pledged their allegiances to? The Origin eligibilty rules have to change. 100% agree with you mate. Frank Pritchard has more of a right to play Origin than Hunt has |
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Post by arh21980 on Jun 23, 2009 17:22:17 GMT 10
im pretty sure theyre aboriginal. i remember the aboriginal v maories game before the rlws opening match. i thought dane laurie was going to stab someone with his spere during that warcry. hes pretty passionate about his heretige Torres Strait Islander |
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Post by jim on Jun 23, 2009 20:44:57 GMT 10
Just out of interest is Dane Carlaw eligible for France yet as well? No, he only joined last year so I imagine he will be eligable at the end of 2011, so a fair way off yet. Greenshields, Mogg, McGuire and Croker have all been there 3 years or will have by the time of the 4N hence why they can play. |
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Post by jim on Jun 23, 2009 20:47:12 GMT 10
im pretty sure theyre aboriginal. i remember the aboriginal v maories game before the rlws opening match. i thought dane laurie was going to stab someone with his spere during that warcry. hes pretty passionate about his heretige Laurie will never play International RL. I remember him in an interview last year saying, "I want to play origin but I never really got this playing for your country thing, I only really want to play Origin"  |
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Post by sportsmad on Jun 23, 2009 21:40:56 GMT 10
give him 5 years with new zealand regularly beating australia and see how he views international games
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Post by Marv on Jun 23, 2009 23:13:41 GMT 10
LOL, QLD arent the sole offenders here. Jarryd Hayne is Fijian, Feletei Mateo wants to play for NSW. The Origin eligibilty rules have to change. Does anyone know who Dane Laurie and Jamal Idris have pledged their allegiances to? The Origin eligibilty rules have to change. 100% agree with you mate. Frank Pritchard has more of a right to play Origin than Hunt has But Origin rules state that you dont have to be born in Australia its the first club you play for, we have been through this a million times. At the End of the day Hayne is NOT Fijian he just played for the WC side, hayne was born in Aus as was Mateo. Its not Origin eligibility that needs to change its international eligibility. |
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Post by arh21980 on Jul 22, 2009 11:31:35 GMT 10
Just a question for our English fans. Do you guys prefer England or to go back to Great Britain?
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Post by Marv on Jul 22, 2009 17:50:01 GMT 10
I prefer England myself, all our other sports teams are England. Also it gives us a chance to work on Ireland and Scotland and Wales as seperate entitiys even though that plan is backfiring a little at the moment.
I think the main thing for me is that the GB side is basically the England side anyway so we are better as England.
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Post by Druzik on Jul 22, 2009 19:09:19 GMT 10
But Origin rules state that you dont have to be born in Australia its the first club you play for, we have been through this a million times. At the End of the day Hayne is NOT Fijian he just played for the WC side, hayne was born in Aus as was Mateo. Its not Origin eligibility that needs to change its international eligibility.Exactly Marv! |
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Post by England 3 Lions on Jul 24, 2009 0:05:10 GMT 10
give him 5 years with new zealand regularly beating australia and see how he views international games The probability of New Zealand defeating Australia regularly is quite low. I think Australia will win 75% of the matches they play against the Kiwis between now and the next World Cup. |
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Post by Marv on Jul 27, 2009 21:10:05 GMT 10
give him 5 years with new zealand regularly beating australia and see how he views international games The probability of New Zealand defeating Australia regularly is quite low. I think Australia will win 75% of the matches they play against the Kiwis between now and the next World Cup. Sadly, your bang on the money Bruce. |
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Post by Druzik on Aug 5, 2009 17:40:02 GMT 10
World Cup-winning Pirtek Kiwis players dominate a 45-man train-on squad named today ahead of the 2009 Four Nations rugby league tournament in England and France in October-November.
In announcing their wider squad, national selectors Howie Tamati (convener), Tony Kemp, Darrell Williams and Pirtek Kiwis coach Stephen Kearney have included 20 of the 24-man squad that carried New Zealand to World Cup glory in last year’s final against Australia.
The only players not selected are World Cup captain Nathan Cayless, now retired from international football, Sika Manu, Evarn Tuimavave and David Kidwell. Manu is sidelined with a broken leg, Tuimavave has only just returned from a long injury lay-off and Kidwell has been playing the New South Wales Cup recently.
Also selected are five players who were ruled out of the World Cup with injury – Roy Asotasi (South Sydney), Jeff Lima (Melbourne), Frank Pritchard (Penrith), Iosia Soliola (Sydney Roosters) and Brent Webb (Leeds).
Among others named are a number of players who last played for the Kiwis in the end of seasons tests in 2007 – Louis Anderson (Warrington), Luke Covell (Cronulla), Shaun Kenny-Dowall (Sydney Roosters), Fuifui Moimoi (Parramatta), Ben Roberts (Bulldogs), Chase Stanley (St George Illawarra) and Taniela Tuiaki (Wests Tigers). English Super League clubs provide three players in Anderson, Webb and World Cup winner Thomas Leuluai (Wigan).
While 32 of the squad have test experience, the other 13 include some of the most promising New Zealand-eligible players in the NRL as well as more established first graders who have won recognition.
“The squad we’ve named reinforces the quality and depth of players we have to choose from when looking to select New Zealand teams these days. It’s getting better all the time,” said Kearney.
“We’ve named 45 players but there are plenty with good claims that haven’t been included. That’s a sign of the competition we now have for spots and that has to be good for our game.
“It’s encouraging for us that so many players are performing well and putting their names in front of the selectors.
“There’s a lot of football to be played before we can be sure what team we will finally have for the Four Nations but we believe we’ll have a competitive squad to go to Europe.”
Kearney confirmed the Pirtek Kiwis would prepare for their Four Nations campaign by assembling in Auckland in early October before spending six days in camp in Rotorua for a one-off Test against Tonga on Wednesday, October 14. New Zealand also had an international against the Tongans in their preparation for the 2008 Rugby League World Cup.
While Kearney is excited about the make-up of the train-on squad so is his fellow selector Kemp, the NZRL’s national high performance director.
“The selection of a player like Kieran Foran form Manly shows there are pathways into our national teams for New Zealand-eligible players living in Australia,” he said.
“We’re committed to giving players like Kieran ever opportunity to represent their country.
“It’s also hugely encouraging for us that four of the players included were part of the Junior Kiwis’ win over the Junior Kangaroos in Wellington in 2007 – Chase Stanley, Alex Glenn (New Zealand’s 18th man for this year’s Anzac Test in Brisbane), Shaun Kenny-Dowall and Eddy Pettybourne.
“And another three Kevin Locke, Ben Matulino and Russell Packer are all local products, examples of what can be achieved by coming through the system here.
“Those three and others included highlight the value of the NYC which is doing so much to develop first-grade players.”
Apart from Foran, Glenn, Locke, Matulino, Pettybourne and Packer, other promising players named who are yet to play for the Kiwis are Bulldogs winger Bryson Goodwin, Roosters front rower Frank-Paul Nuuausala, Newcastle centre Junior Sau, Newcastle back rower Zeb Taia, South Sydney winger Fetuli Talanoa, Manly back rower Jared Waerea-Hargreaves and Brisbane winger Antonio Winterstein. Waerea-Hargreaves, born in Rotorua, has a rugby union background but was picked up by the Sea Eagles last season.
Taia’s eligibility is being confirmed by the Rugby League International Federation. Of Cook Islands heritage, he travels on a New Zealand passport.
Kearney said after the Rotorua Test against Tonga, the touring party would travel to London for the first of the Kiwis’ Four Nations internationals against Australia in London on October 24. The next match against France has been confirmed in Toulouse on October 31 before the Kiwis return to the United Kingdom to meet England at Huddersfield on November 7. The final between the top two teams will be played at Elland Road in Leeds on November 14.
2009 PIRTEK KIWIS – SCHEDULE
Wednesday, October 14 v Tonga International Stadium,
(One-off Test) Rotorua
Saturday, October 24 v Australia Twickenham Stoop,
(Gillette Four Nations) London
Saturday, October 31 v France Toulouse
(Gillette Four Nations)
Saturday, November 7 v England Galpharm Stadium,
(Gillette Four Nations) Huddersfield
Saturday, November 14 Final Elland Road,
(Gillette Four Nations) Leeds
2009 PIRTEK KIWIS – TRAIN-ON SQUAD
Louis Anderson (Warrington), Roy Asotasi (South Sydney), Adam Blair (Melbourne), Luke Covell (Cronulla), Greg Eastwood (Bulldogs), David Fa’alogo (South Sydney), Nathan Fien (St George Illawarra), Kieran Foran (Manly), Alex Glenn (Brisbane), Bryson Goodwin (Bulldogs), Dene Halatau (Wests Tigers), Bronson Harrison (Canberra), Lance Hohaia (Warriors), Krisnan Inu (Parramatta), Shaun Kenny-Dowall (Sydney Roosters), Thomas Leuluai (Wigan), Jeff Lima (Melbourne), Kevin Locke (Warriors), Issac Luke (South Sydney), Simon Mannering (Warriors), Benji Marshall (Wests Tigers), Steve Matai (Manly), Ben Matulino (Warriors), Fuifui Moimoi (Parramatta), Jason Nightingale (St George Illawarra), Frank-Paul Nuuausala (Sydney Roosters), Russell Packer (Warriors), Sam Perrett (Sydney Roosters), Eddy Pettybourne (South Sydney), Frank Pritchard (Penrith), Sam Rapira (Warriors), Ben Roberts (Bulldogs), Jerome Ropati (Warriors), Setaimata Sa (Sydney Roosters), Junior Sau (Newcastle), Jeremy Smith (St George Illawarra), Iosia Soliola (Sydney Roosters), Chase Stanley (St George Illawarra), Zeb Taia (Newcastle), Fetuli Talanoa (South Sydney), Taniela Tuiaki (Wests Tigers), Manu Vatuvei (Warriors), Jared Waerea-Hargreaves (Manly), Brent Webb (Leeds), Antonio Winterstein (Brisbane).
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Post by sportsmad on Aug 5, 2009 21:40:39 GMT 10
wow , what an impressive squad! so much depth. i knew a lot of players were eligable but this indicates just how serious nzrl are as true competitors.
i worry that a lot of these players could have represented some of the pacific island nations though.
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