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Post by Druzik on May 27, 2009 18:59:58 GMT 10
I have done up a full schedule with simulations and attempts at costings on HERE. |
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Post by sportsmad on May 27, 2009 21:41:44 GMT 10
cetainly an interesting schedule. if only the RLIF listened to ideas like this....
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Post by sportsmad on May 27, 2009 22:06:08 GMT 10
i noticed you included Canada and Argentina in there, an interesting choice. although i feel at this stage they wouldn't be very competitive at all and wont be for quite a long time. however i understand that including them is crucial to help develop the game.
generating $8.7 million might be a bit of a problem and would require a lot of work. my main criticism is that the six nations is too close of a pinnacle to the world cup. 6 nations sounds like an absolutely awesome tournament that people would look forward to for years thus taking some of the gloss off the world cup
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Post by Druzik on May 27, 2009 23:01:46 GMT 10
cetainly an interesting schedule. if only the RLIF listened to ideas like this.... ;D if only you knew the trouble it has got me into over the years... the RLIF doesnt like being told what to do... thats for sure. |
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Post by Druzik on May 27, 2009 23:20:16 GMT 10
i noticed you included Canada and Argentina in there, an interesting choice. although i feel at this stage they wouldn't be very competitive at all and wont be for quite a long time. however i understand that including them is crucial to help develop the game. |
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Post by supersteve on Jun 21, 2009 14:41:05 GMT 10
Im starting to get excited about this tournament. I wish it were sooner.
If New Zealand can manage to get a near full strength team together, they are going to be very hard to beat IMO. A couple of new youngsters have come up from the Under 20's lately that have caught my attention. One is Kevin Locke, fullback for the Warriors. This kid is an absolute super star in the making (you heard it here first). Hes played three NRL games now, I watched his first two and he was simply brilliant. Full of confidence, knew exactly what to do and when to do it. He is also a very good goal kicker. The second is Joseph Tomane, a winger for the Storm. He has also played three games, and after two the Titans stitched him up with a long term contract starting next year. Some of their regulars are also playing outstanding football. Adam Blair, Sika Manu, Jason Nightingale. Add in Taniela Tuiaki, they will have a very strong team.
Ben Roberts has also finally come back to some great form. If he continues on the right path, Roberts at 5/8th and Marshall at Half back would be a fantastic halves paring.
My Potential team:
1. Kevin Locke
2. Jason Nightingale
3. Taniela Tuiaki
4. Simon Mannering
5. Manu Vatuvei
6. Ben Roberts
7. Benji Marshall
8. Adam Blair
9. Isaac Luke
10. Roy Asotasi
11. Sika Manu
12. Frank Pritchard
13. Jeremy Smith
14. Lance Hohaia
15. David Kidwell
16. Ben Te'o
17. Greg Eastwood
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Post by jim on Jun 21, 2009 16:44:03 GMT 10
Im starting to get excited about this tournament. I wish it were sooner. If New Zealand can manage to get a near full strength team together, they are going to be very hard to beat IMO. A couple of new youngsters have come up from the Under 20's lately that have caught my attention. One is Kevin Locke, fullback for the Warriors. This kid is an absolute super star in the making (you heard it here first). Hes played three NRL games now, I watched his first two and he was simply brilliant. Full of confidence, knew exactly what to do and when to do it. He is also a very good goal kicker. The second is Joseph Tomane, a winger for the Storm. He has also played three games, and after two the Titans stitched him up with a long term contract starting next year. Some of their regulars are also playing outstanding football. Adam Blair, Sika Manu, Jason Nightingale. Add in Taniela Tuiaki, they will have a very strong team. Ben Roberts has also finally come back to some great form. If he continues on the right path, Roberts at 5/8th and Marshall at Half back would be a fantastic halves paring. My Potential team: 1. Kevin Locke 2. Jason Nightingale 3. Taniela Tuiaki 4. Simon Mannering 5. Manu Vatuvei 6. Ben Roberts 7. Benji Marshall 8. Adam Blair 9. Isaac Luke 10. Roy Asotasi 11. Sika Manu 12. Ben Te'o 13. Jeremy Smith 14. Lance Hohaia 15. David Kidwell 16. Jeff Lima 17. Greg Eastwood I would definatley have Pritchard in there, other than that it looks good steve. The only problem I can see is that their halves and hooker are all creative, flashy players without a real organiser like a Lockyer type player. However England have the same problem and France will too if they can't get a hold of McGuire. For NZ: 1. Webb 2. Locke 3. Mannering 4. Inu 5. Vatuvai 6. Roberts 7. Marshall 8. Asotasi 9. Luke 10. Blair 11. Harrison 12. Pritchard 13. Smith 14. Lima 15. Matulino 16. Rapira 17. Hohaia I prefer Mannering in the back-row TBH but I think that's the best they could go with. For funnsies I'll chuck in the other 3. Australia 1. Slater 2. Boyd 3. Inglis 4. Hodges 5. Falou 6. Lockyer 7. Thurston 8. Price 9. Smith 10. Civoniceva 11. B Creagh 12. Crocker 13. P Gallen 14. Bailey 15. Thaiday 16. Myles 17. Gidley England 1. S Briscoe/Smith 2. Fox 3. Gleeson 4. Shenton 5. Owen 6. McGuire 7. Myler 8. Peacock 9. Moore 10. Morley 11. Ellis 12. Burgess 13. O'Loughlin 14. Roby 15. Graham 16. McCarthy-Scarsbrook 17. Hock France 1. Greenshields 2. Duport 3. Baille 4. Planas 5. Pelo 6. McGuire 7. Bosc 8. Ferriol 9. Rinaldi 10. Guisset 11. Elima 12. Anselme 13. Mounis 14. K Bentley 15. Fakir 16. Casty 17. Martins If Lee Smith stays in Rugby League he should be at the back for England IMO. |
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Post by supersteve on Jun 21, 2009 18:04:31 GMT 10
Of course,
Pritchard I forgot him. Human wrecking ball.
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Post by Kiwi fan on Jun 22, 2009 19:36:59 GMT 10
I don't think Locke is ready yet. We have plenty of options in the outside backs, no need to good to Locke before he is ready. He will get his go but not yet. I don't see why you guys have gone with Robers either. For me Roberts is tried and failed. I would start with Hohaia, Marshall and Luke as my halves with Halatau on the bench.
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Post by jim on Jun 22, 2009 20:09:01 GMT 10
I don't think Locke is ready yet. We have plenty of options in the outside backs, no need to good to Locke before he is ready. He will get his go but not yet. I don't see why you guys have gone with Robers either. For me Roberts is tried and failed. I would start with Hohaia, Marshall and Luke as my halves with Halatau on the bench. I think Locke would handle it quite fine, from what I've seen of him he is an exceptional player, if he continues to go well then he will be well within a shout for a test jumper. Falou made his debut for Australia after one season and Inu debuted before he evn played NRL if memory serves me correct. |
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Post by supersteve on Jun 22, 2009 21:34:57 GMT 10
My thoughts exactly Jim.
Locke to me looks like one of those rare players, like a Folau. I dont see why you wouldn't put him in the NZ team, get him into that kind of experience as soon as possible, no point sitting on him. Hohaia to me, he just doesnt do enough for my likings. He doesnt have any true spark IMO. When Roberts is in form, and he well and truly is, he can carve up opposition defenses, like he did to the Broncos two weeks ago. I dont think blacklisiting a player from Rep footy is ever a good idea. Players mature and get better, he deserves another chance IMO.
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Post by sportsmad on Jun 23, 2009 10:51:30 GMT 10
yes! managed to finally get through to the forum this time. been going to some wierd site that says its this site lately.
mutilino and locke could be absolutely brilliant inclusions in a nz squad. england will be looking to strike back under pressure, australia will be australia. i worry about france but they have potential. this tourna,ent is shaping up as the best tri/four nations ever
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Post by arh21980 on Jun 23, 2009 14:27:40 GMT 10
Not sure if Joseph Tomane will ever play for New Zealand read somewhere that he's going to do a Karmichael and play Origin for Qld.
What is it with qld they can't make there own players!!!! I think in years to come they will become the most hated team world wide because of the damage they do to the international game
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Post by arh21980 on Jun 23, 2009 14:29:05 GMT 10
Im starting to get excited about this tournament. I wish it were sooner. If New Zealand can manage to get a near full strength team together, they are going to be very hard to beat IMO. A couple of new youngsters have come up from the Under 20's lately that have caught my attention. One is Kevin Locke, fullback for the Warriors. This kid is an absolute super star in the making (you heard it here first). Hes played three NRL games now, I watched his first two and he was simply brilliant. Full of confidence, knew exactly what to do and when to do it. He is also a very good goal kicker. The second is Joseph Tomane, a winger for the Storm. He has also played three games, and after two the Titans stitched him up with a long term contract starting next year. Some of their regulars are also playing outstanding football. Adam Blair, Sika Manu, Jason Nightingale. Add in Taniela Tuiaki, they will have a very strong team. Ben Roberts has also finally come back to some great form. If he continues on the right path, Roberts at 5/8th and Marshall at Half back would be a fantastic halves paring. My Potential team: 1. Kevin Locke 2. Jason Nightingale 3. Taniela Tuiaki 4. Simon Mannering 5. Manu Vatuvei 6. Ben Roberts 7. Benji Marshall 8. Adam Blair 9. Isaac Luke 10. Roy Asotasi 11. Sika Manu 12. Ben Te'o 13. Jeremy Smith 14. Lance Hohaia 15. David Kidwell 16. Jeff Lima 17. Greg Eastwood I would definatley have Pritchard in there, other than that it looks good steve. The only problem I can see is that their halves and hooker are all creative, flashy players without a real organiser like a Lockyer type player. However England have the same problem and France will too if they can't get a hold of McGuire. For NZ: 1. Webb 2. Locke 3. Mannering 4. Inu 5. Vatuvai 6. Roberts 7. Marshall 8. Asotasi 9. Luke 10. Blair 11. Harrison 12. Pritchard 13. Smith 14. Lima 15. Matulino 16. Rapira 17. Hohaia I prefer Mannering in the back-row TBH but I think that's the best they could go with. For funnsies I'll chuck in the other 3. Australia 1. Slater 2. Boyd 3. Inglis 4. Hodges 5. Falou 6. Lockyer 7. Thurston 8. Price 9. Smith 10. Civoniceva 11. B Creagh 12. Crocker 13. P Gallen 14. Bailey 15. Thaiday 16. Myles 17. Gidley England 1. S Briscoe/Smith 2. Fox 3. Gleeson 4. Shenton 5. Owen 6. McGuire 7. Myler 8. Peacock 9. Moore 10. Morley 11. Ellis 12. Burgess 13. O'Loughlin 14. Roby 15. Graham 16. McCarthy-Scarsbrook 17. Hock France 1. Greenshields 2. Duport 3. Baille 4. Planas 5. Pelo 6. McGuire 7. Bosc 8. Ferriol 9. Rinaldi 10. Guisset 11. Elima 12. Anselme 13. Mounis 14. K Bentley 15. Fakir 16. Casty 17. Martins If Lee Smith stays in Rugby League he should be at the back for England IMO. Just out of interest is Dane Carlaw eligible for France yet as well? |
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Post by sportsmad on Jun 23, 2009 14:37:00 GMT 10
tomane is a little different to hunt i think. tomayne grew up here in australia probably watching origin as a kid. hunt has the full kiwi accent, everything about him is kiwi yet he turned his back on his country for origin (which is nearing the sellout anouncement of over 80,000 and will be broadcast live in prime time to most of australia including adelaide i think). theres no other word for it than traitor, just like inglis! i hope tomayne plays for nz though. theyre getting quite a lot of depth now and that will only continue. if tony kemp does his job right (recruiting eligable players for nz) then in 5 years time nz will be as powerful as australia if not more.
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