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Post by Ryan N on Apr 27, 2009 10:53:02 GMT 10
The NRL is starting to become more un-predictable. Basically Melbourne and Manly aren't so dominant. If you're watching a game you do not have a guaranteed chance of knowing the outcome.
And I'm glad Melbourne isn't so dominant. I had their game worked out back in 2007. The pass behind, pass behind movement, or the kick to Israel Folau or Greg Inglis. It got rather boring, it just worked because they were a skill level above. But the salary cap, Israel leaving, now it's starting to even out.
And Manly can't play without their rapist Brett Stewart. I don't know what you all think because they didn't find his DNA but he admitted to it, so obviously something happened. I just don't fancy Manly, like every other Parramatta fan.
But right now you get the feeling that the title could go to anyone.
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Post by supersteve on Apr 27, 2009 11:41:43 GMT 10
Yeah Melbourne have definately come back to the pack. I think the two refs have had an impact on them in particular. You cant wrestle as much as you could last year, youll get caught for it 9 times out of 10. Melbourne were masters of controlling the ruck speed, now they have made it more even playing field.
Stewart definately did something, he has been charged, he still has his court date to come. Hes injured for the next 8-12 week now anyway. Manly are goooone without him.
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Post by Ryan N on Apr 27, 2009 12:16:22 GMT 10
Yeah Melbourne have definately come back to the pack. I think the two refs have had an impact on them in particular. You cant wrestle as much as you could last year, youll get caught for it 9 times out of 10. Melbourne were masters of controlling the ruck speed, now they have made it more even playing field. Stewart definately did something, he has been charged, he still has his court date to come. Hes injured for the next 8-12 week now anyway. Manly are goooone without him. That may also be part of it. I didn't think of that. I'm glad people think that way. But I was browsing another forum, people seem to want to be oblivious to the situation. Get a grip, he's a rapist or whatever, still not an ideal person in society. I hope he gets what's coming for him, and doesn't get a weaker sentence or whatever just because he's an NRL player. I'm not sure on the situation, but depending he could possibly get a gaol sentence no? |
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Post by jim on Apr 27, 2009 21:34:24 GMT 10
Yeah Melbourne have definately come back to the pack. I think the two refs have had an impact on them in particular. You cant wrestle as much as you could last year, youll get caught for it 9 times out of 10. Melbourne were masters of controlling the ruck speed, now they have made it more even playing field. Stewart definately did something, he has been charged, he still has his court date to come. Hes injured for the next 8-12 week now anyway. Manly are goooone without him. That may also be part of it. I didn't think of that. I'm glad people think that way. But I was browsing another forum, people seem to want to be oblivious to the situation. Get a grip, he's a rapist or whatever, still not an ideal person in society. I hope he gets what's coming for him, and doesn't get a weaker sentence or whatever just because he's an NRL player. I'm not sure on the situation, but depending he could possibly get a gaol sentence no? Unless i missed something rape has nothing to do with it. Sexual Assualt and Rape are two entirely different worlds. |
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Post by Druzik on Apr 28, 2009 5:35:02 GMT 10
That may also be part of it. I didn't think of that. I'm glad people think that way. But I was browsing another forum, people seem to want to be oblivious to the situation. Get a grip, he's a rapist or whatever, still not an ideal person in society. I hope he gets what's coming for him, and doesn't get a weaker sentence or whatever just because he's an NRL player. I'm not sure on the situation, but depending he could possibly get a gaol sentence no? Unless i missed something rape has nothing to do with it. Sexual Assualt and Rape are two entirely different worlds. Look until we know more I think its safer not to really make claims or allegations... not sure if there could be anything liable in what is said. |
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Post by Ryan N on Apr 28, 2009 18:21:08 GMT 10
That may also be part of it. I didn't think of that. I'm glad people think that way. But I was browsing another forum, people seem to want to be oblivious to the situation. Get a grip, he's a rapist or whatever, still not an ideal person in society. I hope he gets what's coming for him, and doesn't get a weaker sentence or whatever just because he's an NRL player. I'm not sure on the situation, but depending he could possibly get a gaol sentence no? Unless i missed something rape has nothing to do with it. Sexual Assualt and Rape are two entirely different worlds. Actually. In the legal system you cannot be charged with "rape" as such. The legal term is sexual assault.' Sexual harrassment, is the idea of say, grabbing someone without permission etc. Which is how you must have been confused. So.. yes, that means he is being charged with rape, or sexual assault, whatever you want to call it. |
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Post by Ryan N on Apr 28, 2009 18:40:21 GMT 10
Actually, just did some research to 100% sure. Yes sexual harrassment is what you are charged with for raping someone. However it can be more broader than that.
Eg. Rape/sexual assault is defined as penetration of the vagina or anus with the penis, other body part or foreign object without consent. It also includes forced oral sex.
However, considering Brett Stewart confessed then I would consider it as true. Whatever the case he still did the wrong thing. And confessing to it is enough proof for me, I mean, why would you confess if you didn't do it? If that's the case than he's stupid enough that he should be locked up anyway.
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Post by Druzik on Apr 28, 2009 18:48:39 GMT 10
Actually, just did some research to 100% sure. Yes sexual harrassment is what you are charged with for raping someone. However it can be more broader than that. Eg. Rape/sexual assault is defined as penetration of the vagina or anus with the penis, other body part or foreign object without consent. It also includes forced oral sex. However, considering Brett Stewart confessed then I would consider it as true. Whatever the case he still did the wrong thing. And confessing to it is enough proof for me, I mean, why would you confess if you didn't do it? If that's the case than he's stupid enough that he should be locked up anyway. OK guys back on topic... unpredicatbility in the NRL, and ESL I'd say ... this other topic is for the lounge I would say. |
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Post by Ryan N on Apr 28, 2009 18:54:36 GMT 10
I just wanted to clear that up. I mean, I can understand you guys not saying anything until you guys are definite he is charged, but remember, the legal system doesn't always work.
But yeah, it is really un-predictable nowadays. i love it. And yeah the ESL too, we get the games on free to air now, and I mean, yeah they're bloody good, better than NRL games in my opinion, they use ball ahndling skills etc. more. I absolutely love it.
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Post by Druzik on Apr 28, 2009 19:02:28 GMT 10
I just wanted to clear that up. I mean, I can understand you guys not saying anything until you guys are definite he is charged, but remember, the legal system doesn't always work. But yeah, it is really un-predictable nowadays. i love it. And yeah the ESL too, we get the games on free to air now, and I mean, yeah they're bloody good, better than NRL games in my opinion, they use ball ahndling skills etc. more. I absolutely love it. Which was a real surprise that during the world cup that didnt transfer over... This year I think is the first real year where the unpredicatbility in the ESL has started to shine, teams that normally would be written off are doing well and the good teams, except St helens can also be beat on their day, look at leads, they copped a prison pounding from Quins. Cas and the Hull teams particularly KR are doing well and Wakey have come up, Salford have done better than thought so far with a few wins. Celtic are probably the only predictable nes, but even there they have come damn close on occasion. But I have to say in terms of style, the LER is still my favourite, its almost ad-lib rugby league there and some of the stuff that the players pull of is wonderful. Sure its ugly when not working but absolutely sublime when it does. |
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Post by Ryan N on Apr 28, 2009 20:07:54 GMT 10
I think what it may have been is that the teams were all trying to play to this particular style, not to their own individualness.
Mmm, haven't seen Celtic play yet, they may have been on TV once but I might've missed it cause the surf was pumping or something. So they aren't really that competitive?
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Post by Druzik on Apr 28, 2009 21:25:17 GMT 10
I think what it may have been is that the teams were all trying to play to this particular style, not to their own individualness. Mmm, haven't seen Celtic play yet, they may have been on TV once but I might've missed it cause the surf was pumping or something. So they aren't really that competitive? Quite the opposite I think, they have been very competitive about 70% of the time, they held St Helens to 4-0 in their match and only just lost to cats last weekend... I think there have only been a couple blow outs. They just need to still get their combos working a bit better and their first wins will come, They are almost there. |
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