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Post by Druzik on Feb 25, 2009 17:42:20 GMT 10
From Cliff Spraklen over on TRL.
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Post by Druzik on Mar 1, 2009 0:39:05 GMT 10
Press Release from the French Federation with the official announcement;;"Communiqué de Presse
"Lors de la conférence de presse qui s’est déroulée le samedi 28 février à Paris, le Président de la Fédération Française de Rugby à XIII, Nicolas Larrat, a présenté le nouvel entraîneur du XIII de France.
L'heureux élu est Bobbie GOULDING. Ancien joueur de l'équipe de Grande Bretagne et de l'Angleterre, capitaine de SAINT HELENS dans les années 90. Un joueur qui a marqué son époque par son talent et son fort caractère. Bobby Goulding est un homme de valeurs qui a la fougue et l'envie de démontrer qu'il y a autre chose que le rugby à XIII australien."
"Fougue" is "fire, as in "fiery" or "spirit" so Larrat is saying that "Bobby Goulding is a man of ability/talent who has the fire and desire to show that there is something else besides Australian Rugby League".
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Post by Druzik on Mar 1, 2009 0:40:09 GMT 10
Interview with Bobby Goulding in Press Dossier issued by FFR13:
Note reference to a third French team.
"Bobby GOULDING’s interview
What reasons motivated you to suggest your candidacy as head coach of the XIII de France?
I am confident in my ability to coach at the highest level and I am ready for a big challenge. I want to be the best, and there is no greater stage as the international one to show what I and my team can do.
How do you analyze the French failure during the World cup 2008?
No team spirit and individuals not performing. The success of Catalan influencing players performance (hard to raise their performance again).
What objects did you define for the coming years?
To assemble a unit of players who want to play for their country.
To combine the two younger age groups; 18‟s – 21‟s with the full international side for training / bonding sessions.
To send the sides into „camps‟ every six weeks for bonding sessions.
To ensure all groups work to the same structure in training and in games.
To be present at all training sessions with all three squads and be present at all international games that the three sides play.
To form a close relationship with Catalan Dragons and Toulouse, especially with their coaching staff. I aim to be present at training for these two clubs or other clubs at least once a week, to build relationships.
To be present at matches in France and in England as often as possible.
To encourage a brand of Rugby that brings people out to watch their national team and to be proud of them.
I will build relationships with Super League clubs to encourage young French talent to play at a high level.
In the next twelve months, I aim to get a third team in the British competition of National League 1 or 2 of a side consisting of all French under 21‟s (with 3 or 4 over age, all French). They will play at a competitive level and become better players in time for the next World Cup.
To get support staff in place i.e. assistant coach, strength, conditioning and skills coach, a team manager, someone speaking both French and English and 1 other coach.
What do you expect from your coming to France?
To coach a successful side of loyal players.
To improve the team and individuals and guide them to success.
To enjoy involvement in the great sport of Professional Rugby League at the
highest level.
To personally compete against the best, i.e. Australia and New Zealand.
Do you think some actual French players already deserve to be in the French team?
If a player is determined to show loyalty, commitment, desire and the skills to perform at the highest level, then the door will never close on them.
Two majors events will occur in 2009. The match between France and England and the Four Nations. How do you intend to get ready for these challenges?
The objects above (1 -11) will ensure a firm foundation to meet these challenges.
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Post by England 3 Lions on Mar 1, 2009 0:51:16 GMT 10
The man's objectives are impressive.
John Monie might have been a great coach during the 1980's, but he's been a failure since the mid 1990's. The FFR 13 were stupid for placing him in charge of the national team.
Mick Potter should have led the side at the World Cup. His success with Catalans and familiarity with the French players would have made them a more cohesive unit.
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Post by Druzik on Mar 1, 2009 1:01:55 GMT 10
Maybe... I still would have liked to seen a French coach in there.
I dont know a hell of a lot about Goolding, he used to be at rochdale didnt he? This is a good or bad appointment the main things being:
Good:
Being a relatively unknown coach he may allow the french to play their natural game and not be constrained by any certain ways. Certainly grounding in the Englsk game will make it better than an Aussie coach.
Bad:
I have read that his players tend to get red carded a lot. but also being relatively new on the international coaching scene he could try to stamp his mark be forcing the French to again play a particular unnatural style like Monie did.
Well only 8 months till the 4 Nations... see what happenes.
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Post by jim on Mar 1, 2009 19:30:12 GMT 10
In the next twelve months, I aim to get a third team in the British competition of National League 1 or 2 of a side consisting of all French under 21‟s (with 3 or 4 over age, all French). They will play at a competitive level and become better players in time for the next World Cup. That is kind of a weird statement, where would this team be based? I like the initiative but it seems a bit weird, wouldn't Larrat be in charge of this, not the national coach? and ofcourse the RFL would have to approve it. |
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Post by Druzik on Mar 1, 2009 19:52:11 GMT 10
That is kind of a weird statement, where would this team be based? Paris? People have been talking about this since 2007 and I think Max Guazzini is interested in setting something up ... are these the forst hints of what is to come? .... I wonder I like the initiative but it seems a bit weird, wouldn't Larrat be in charge of this, not the national coach? and ofcourse the RFL would have to approve it. Yes, but if you read cliffs threads on TRL this obviousy is something that Larratt is interested in and the fact Gooding has made this proposal in his application weighed in his favour. I am glad that it would be a team of mainly youth... this means that you could have a team that could form a core for france for about 10 years. Interesting to see where this goes and how successful Gooding will be. |
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Post by England 3 Lions on Mar 3, 2009 23:18:57 GMT 10
I suppose the ONE thing the French should have done was introduce an Australian defensive coordinator. The one area where the English and French can learn from the Australians is in defence.
In regards to attack, I think England and France ought to rely on their respective styles of play.
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Post by Marv on Mar 4, 2009 2:18:58 GMT 10
On the face of it it seems the most ridiculous desicion I have ever heard. Those who know about Bobbie Goulding and his past are, quite rightly, stunned.
Me, I think its so mad.............it just might work, Bobbie Goulding is renowned for being Passionate, wearing its heart on its sleeve, something France is famous for, people keep talking about "the French style of play" and how Goulding does not know the French game.
Well guys, When you say French style what style do you mean?
The great French flair of the 50s and 60s?
The Australian coached toughness of the Catalans Dragons?
The dire French teams of the 90s and early 2000s?
The style of the French LER League where teams reguarly get flogged in poor one sided matches?
The give up and die style after our one gameplan didnt work of the French world cup team?
I guess what I am saying is the French national team dont have a "style" their identity is ever-changing, by the day, the halcyon days of the 50s are long gone, the bad days in the late 90s are gone, Rugby League has changed immesurably since France were a power, but It can be a power again.
France has new teams, new objectives for its clubs and a new head coach who could take them in a new direction.
Best of luck to the guy is what i say.
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Post by Marv on Mar 4, 2009 2:24:53 GMT 10
Paris? People have been talking about this since 2007 and I think Max Guazzini is interested in setting something up ... are these the forst hints of what is to come? .... I wonder It cant be, If you are talking a team of Juniors then there is a high chance these kids will be coming from the heartlands, Toulouse, Perpignan, Aude, Salanque, Provence IF the side was to comprise of youngsters in the british lower league then Paris would be too costly, in terms of getting the players to and from games, Paris could work one day, but it would need to be a rock solid franchise straight into SL with lots of money. This third side would, to me looking in from the outside, be a development tool for Catalans, Toulouse and the national team, therefore I would place it in the area between the two strongholds- Aude, itself a RL stronghold. |
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Post by Druzik on Mar 4, 2009 3:23:30 GMT 10
Fair enough points Marv.
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Post by jim on Mar 4, 2009 21:26:55 GMT 10
Paris? People have been talking about this since 2007 and I think Max Guazzini is interested in setting something up ... are these the forst hints of what is to come? .... I wonder It cant be, If you are talking a team of Juniors then there is a high chance these kids will be coming from the heartlands, Toulouse, Perpignan, Aude, Salanque, Provence IF the side was to comprise of youngsters in the british lower league then Paris would be too costly, in terms of getting the players to and from games, Paris could work one day, but it would need to be a rock solid franchise straight into SL with lots of money. This third side would, to me looking in from the outside, be a development tool for Catalans, Toulouse and the national team, therefore I would place it in the area between the two strongholds- Aude, itself a RL stronghold. I tend to agree that team should be based in the South, the Aude would be a good spot. Don't Catalans now field a team in ther British Academy system aswell now? If so, then with this new team and Toulouse's acedemy it looks like they're going to producve some quality juniors in years to come. Just on the Paris idea, given a few recent happening and statements I would not be suprosed to see a Paris team bidding for SL 2012. Larrat has signalled strong intent to push into Paris, The SF boss has mentioned something about fielding a RL team. Now the FFR look likely to take 2 games to Paris this year, both playing out of SF's stadium, seems the FFR are building a handy relationship with SF. I would be very suprised if nothing came of this. |
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