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Post by jim on Oct 7, 2008 19:39:05 GMT 10
Is that Fitzgibbon comment serious. I cannot believe you just said that. Brings experience and the truth is he puts in a hard game. More deserving to be there than some others. I think Fitzgibbon was very lucky to make it, I doubt he will be in the first choice 17. I think it wouyld have made more sense to put a younger bloke in there just for a bit of top-level experience. Fitzgibbon getting in ahead of Dallas Johnson and Sam Thaiday is not right IMO. Also Josh Perry? he couldn't even make an average NSW side, makes me think the selectors only watched him once this year on GF day. |
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Post by Ryan N on Oct 7, 2008 19:47:08 GMT 10
Is that Fitzgibbon comment serious. I cannot believe you just said that. Brings experience and the truth is he puts in a hard game. More deserving to be there than some others. I think Fitzgibbon was very lucky to make it, I doubt he will be in the first choice 17. I think it wouyld have made more sense to put a younger bloke in there just for a bit of top-level experience. Fitzgibbon getting in ahead of Dallas Johnson and Sam Thaiday is not right IMO. Also Josh Perry? he couldn't even make an average NSW side, makes me think the selectors only watched him once this year on GF day. Dallas Johnsons tough, so I would say he should be there. Thaiday in my opinion.. he's good, but not good enough this year. Josh Perry deserves it too. Experience again. Also this will be the last chance those two have for a proper World Cup. |
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Post by jim on Oct 7, 2008 20:47:33 GMT 10
I think Fitzgibbon was very lucky to make it, I doubt he will be in the first choice 17. I think it wouyld have made more sense to put a younger bloke in there just for a bit of top-level experience. Fitzgibbon getting in ahead of Dallas Johnson and Sam Thaiday is not right IMO. Also Josh Perry? he couldn't even make an average NSW side, makes me think the selectors only watched him once this year on GF day. Dallas Johnsons tough, so I would say he should be there. Thaiday in my opinion.. he's good, but not good enough this year. Josh Perry deserves it too. Experience again. Also this will be the last chance those two have for a proper World Cup. I reckon Johnson should have been there for sure, I think Thaiday has had a good year and has been one of the form 2nd rowers. Although I think the Incident with the 3 broncos could well have affected the squad, I would have thought Thaiday and Hunt were shoie-ins for the squad. |
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Post by jim on Oct 7, 2008 21:20:46 GMT 10
England World Cup squad:
Name Club Age
Rob Burrow Leeds Rhinos 26
Mark Calderwood Wigan Warriors 26
Gareth Ellis Leeds Rhinos 27
Mauire Fa’asavalu St Helens 28
Ade Gardner St Helens 25
Martin Gleeson Warrington Wolves 28
James Graham St Helens 23
Mickey Higham Wigan Warriors 28
Gareth Hock Wigan Warriors 25
Jamie Jones Buchanan Leeds Rhinos 27
Jamie Langley Bradford Bulls 24
Danny McGuire Leeds Rhinos 25
Adrian Morley Warrington Wolves 31
Jamie Peacock Leeds Rhinos 30
Leon Pryce St Helens 26
Rob Purdham Harlequins RL 28
James Roby St Helens 22
Keith Senior Leeds Rhinos 32
Kevin Sinfield Leeds Rhinos 28
Lee Smith Leeds Rhinos 22
Paul Sykes Bradford Bulls 27
Paul Wellens St Helens 28
Ben Westwood Warrington Wolves 27
Jon Wilkin St Helens 24
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Post by jim on Oct 7, 2008 21:25:57 GMT 10
A few suprising selections and players left out. Lee Gilmour, Peter Fox, Joe Westerman, Michael Shenton, Louis McCarty-Scarsbrook and probably more will feel unlucky to miss out. Pursham, Sykes, Langley and Calderwood all suprising selections.
If Brent Webb didn't get injured before the SL GF I don't think Lee Smith would be there. Had a blinder at fullback and could well take the spot off Wellens for game or two. Looks a good fullback for England's future.
anyway from that squad.
1. P Wellens
2. L Smith
3. M Gleeson
4. K Senior
5. A Gardner
6. L Pryce
7. R Burrow
8. J Graham
9. J Roby
10. J Peacock
11. G Hock
12. G Ellis
13. K Sinfield
14. A Morley
15. M Fa'asavalu
16. J Wilkin
17. D McGuire/M Higham
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Post by Druzik on Oct 7, 2008 21:29:44 GMT 10
Its very young, only two players 30+ I think.
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Post by Marv on Oct 8, 2008 1:18:28 GMT 10
Its very young, only two players 30+ I think. That could be a good thing or a bad thing really, good because its not the same old stiffs who have struggled to beat Aus for years and bad because this side probably wont know what has hit them when they get that first shot in a Eng/GB v Aus test match and if its close you wonder about experience and cool heads, leading me to Ryan and Jims debate. I think Thaiday and Johnson can think themselves unlucky not to be there, they are better than any of Englands back row options for sure, but Fitzgibbon will be a good experienced old head who, I belive, has already won the World cup once. |
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Post by Marv on Oct 8, 2008 1:40:50 GMT 10
FIJI SQUAD
Jone Macilai Fassifern Bombers (QLD)
Josateki Ravueta Sawtell Panthers (NSW)
Jone Wesele Darlington Point Roosters (NSW)
Sevanaia Koroi West Magpies (NSW)
Alipate Tani Parkes Spacemen (NSW)
Kaliova Tani Fassifern Bombers (QLD)
Iowane Divavesi Terrigal Sharks (NSW)
Waisele Sukanaveita (Vice Captain) Terrigal Sharks (NSW)
Ilisoni Mateiratu Parkes Spacemen (NSW)
Semisi Tora Parkes Spacemen (NSW)
Malakai Tuiloa Ulladulla Bulldog ( NSW)
Vula Naqau Terrigal Sharks (NSW)
James Storer Cronulla Sharks
Osea Sadrau Fassifern Bombers (QLD)
Jason Bukuya Cronulla Sharks
Ashton Sims Brisbane Broncos
Nick Brad Qalilawa Manly Sea Eagles
Wes Naiqama (Captain) Newcastle Knights
Akuila Uate Newcastle Knights
Aaron Groom Canterbury Bulldogs
Darryl Millard Canterbury Bulldogs
Semi Tadulala Bradford Bulls
John Sutton North Sydney Rabbitohs
Jarod Hayne Paramatta Eels
Nemani Suguturaga Suva Bookshop Nabua Broncos
Josua Koroibulu Ulladulla Bulldog ( NSW)
Namila Davui
Eparama Navale Dubbo CYMS
is it just me or are there not too many Fijian domestic players in that squad?
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Post by kuwaitikev on Oct 8, 2008 7:02:27 GMT 10
Expect 4 of those "domestic" players to drop out too with it being 28 players names there.
I think Fiji placed a lot of their World Cup possibles into Australian lower level clubs at the start of this year to get them more experience.
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Post by beez on Oct 8, 2008 7:39:11 GMT 10
Is that Fitzgibbon comment serious. I cannot believe you just said that. Brings experience and the truth is he puts in a hard game. More deserving to be there than some others. They already have a fair bit of experience in that pack. But I'd have Thaiday, Johnson, Tupou (who I'm guessing is injured) and Hindmarsh ahead of him and they all have enough experience for this level. But I am happy to see Fitzgibbon and Perry in that squad as they don't exactly strike fear into me, being a NZ supporter. |
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Post by beez on Oct 8, 2008 7:46:32 GMT 10
Ireland squad:
Ross Barbour (Carlow Crusaders)
Bob Beswick (Widnes)
Damien Blanch (Wakefield)
Mick Cassidy (Barrow)
Ged Corcoran (Sheffield)
Lee Doran (Leigh)
Liam Finn (Dewsbury)
Simon Finnigan (Bradford)
Karl Fitzpatrick (Salford)
Steve Gibbons (London Skolars)
Sean Gleeson (Wakefield)
Scott Grix (Wakefield)
Gareth Haggerty (Harlequins)
Ben Harrison (Warrington)
Graham Holroyd (Halifax)
Wayne Kerr (London Skolars)
Stuart Littler (Salford)
Shannon McDonnell (Wests Tigers)
Michael McIlorum (Wigan)
Eamon O'Carroll (Wigan)
Michael Platt (Bradford)
Pat Richards (Wigan)
Ryan Tandy (Wests Tigers)
Brett White (Melbourne Storm)
I haven't seen much of most of these guys this year but I think they'll provide tough opposition for the much hyped Tongan and Samoan teams. I'm really looking forward to this pool.
And does anyone know if they'll have names on their shirts? I'm real keen for a Beswick jersey.
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Post by kuwaitikev on Oct 8, 2008 9:02:23 GMT 10
FIJI SQUAD is it just me or are there not too many Fijian domestic players in that squad? "The Fiji Bati World Cup squad was named at their Fund Raising Dinner in Suva on the weekend. Fourteen local players who had overseas contracts this season, along with one local player and thirteen overseas based players were named in a 28-man squad. " |
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Post by Kiwi fan on Oct 8, 2008 12:20:41 GMT 10
A really poor Australian squad, they have the players to name something much better. A lot of those selections like Campese, Mongahan and williams are horrible. Not a bad NZ squad, I'm pleased Manu got in, he's being playing very well lately.
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Post by beez on Oct 8, 2008 12:20:44 GMT 10
Samoan squad:
George Carmont
David Faiumu
Harrison Hansen
Ali Lauiti'iti
Taualagi Lepupa
Kylie Leuluai
Wayne McDade
Francis Meli
Joseph Paulo
Frank Puletua
Tony Puletua
Ben Roberts
Tangi Ropati
Smith Samau
Lagi Setu
Terry SeuSeu
David Solomona
Willie Talau
Albert Talipeau
Misi Taulapapa
Ben Te'o
Tupu Ulufale
Matt Utai
Nigel Vagana
Not as strong as suggested. It would be interesting to see who turned them down and who wasn't selected from names like: Fai, Ah Van, Tony, Sau etc.
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Post by beez on Oct 8, 2008 12:21:37 GMT 10
Tongan squad:
Fraser Anderson
Lois Anderson
Andrew Emelio
Richard Fa'aoso
Awen Guttenbeil
Michael Jennings
Antonio Kaufusi
Toshio Laiseni
Taniela Lasalo
Epalahame Lauaki
Tevita Leo-Latu
Willie Manu
Manase Manuokafoa
Feleti Mateo
Fuifui Moimoi
Eddie Paea
Mickey Paea
Fetuli Talanoa
Joel Taufa'ao
Esikeli Tonga
Taniela Tuiaki
Anthony Tupou
Etuate Uaisele
Cooper Vuna
Tony Williams
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