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Post by Marv on Sept 24, 2008 17:29:40 GMT 10
so the train on squads are out of the window, the first squad to be announced is a 23 man France squad with no Vincent Duport and no David Ferriol. 14 superleague players included with the 4 broncos trainees and the only player without first grade experience is Laurant Carcasso www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=11841Jerome Guisset (Catalans Dragons) Jean-Philippe Baile (Catalans Dragons) Remi Casty ( Catalans Dragons) Matthieu Grifi ( Catalans Dragons) Justin Murphy (Catalans Dragons) Sebastien Raguin (Catalans Dragons) John Wilson (Catalans Dragons) Dimitri Pelo (Catalans Dragons) Thomas Bosc (Catalans Dragons) Gregory Mounis (Catalans Dragons) Jamal Fakir (Catalans Dragons) Olivier Elima (Catalans Dragons) Julien Rinaldi (Harlequins) Eric Anselme (Leeds) Jared Taylor (Lezignan) James Wynne (Lezignan) Adel Fellous (Lezignan) Maxime Greseque (Pia) Teddy Sadaoui (Carcassonne) Christophe Moly (Carcassonne) Sebastien Planas (Toulouse) Laurent Carrasco (Villeneuve) Jean-Christophe Borlin (Saint-Gaudens) |
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Post by jim on Sept 24, 2008 18:01:06 GMT 10
so the train on squads are out of the window, the first squad to be announced is a 23 man France squad with no Vincent Duport and no David Ferriol. 14 superleague players included with the 4 broncos trainees and the only player without first grade experience is Laurant Carcasso www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=11841Jerome Guisset (Catalans Dragons) Jean-Philippe Baile (Catalans Dragons) Remi Casty ( Catalans Dragons) Matthieu Grifi ( Catalans Dragons) Justin Murphy (Catalans Dragons) Sebastien Raguin (Catalans Dragons) John Wilson (Catalans Dragons) Dimitri Pelo (Catalans Dragons) Thomas Bosc (Catalans Dragons) Gregory Mounis (Catalans Dragons) Jamal Fakir (Catalans Dragons) Olivier Elima (Catalans Dragons) Julien Rinaldi (Harlequins) Eric Anselme (Leeds) Jared Taylor (Lezignan) James Wynne (Lezignan) Adel Fellous (Lezignan) Maxime Greseque (Pia) Teddy Sadaoui (Carcassonne) Christophe Moly (Carcassonne) Sebastien Planas (Toulouse) Laurent Carrasco (Villeneuve) Jean-Christophe Borlin (Saint-Gaudens) Can't see any notable omisions besides Ferriol and Duport, surely atleast one of them will make it, unless they are injured? Glad to see Jean Phillipe Baile in there, looks the goods to me and I was suprised when he wasn;t named in the 40 man train on squad. How come the French have jumped the gun on both ocassions? Looks like Taylor will be FB since Clayton isnt there, unless they plan to use someone out of position. |
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Post by Marv on Sept 24, 2008 18:08:21 GMT 10
[Can't see any notable omisions besides Ferriol and Duport, surely atleast one of them will make it, unless they are injured? well dave ferriol is definatly injured and Duport has struggled with injurys all year so maybe the off season will do him good. Glad to see Jean Phillipe Baile in there, looks the goods to me and I was suprised when he wasn;t named in the 40 man train on squad. good reward for his hard work at the end of the year for the dragons. good on him How come the French have jumped the gun on both ocassions? Looks like Taylor will be FB since Clayton isnt there, unless they plan to use someone out of position. dunno why TBH mate as for taylor I would agree, only other option could be bosc |
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Post by jim on Sept 24, 2008 18:28:20 GMT 10
[Can't see any notable omisions besides Ferriol and Duport, surely atleast one of them will make it, unless they are injured? well dave ferriol is definatly injured and Duport has struggled with injurys all year so maybe the off season will do him good. good reward for his hard work at the end of the year for the dragons. good on him How come the French have jumped the gun on both ocassions? Looks like Taylor will be FB since Clayton isnt there, unless they plan to use someone out of position. dunno why TBH mate as for taylor I would agree, only other option could be bosc OK so only 2 players out so far, assuming Duport is out. I should say three including Cryil Gossard. Also no Cyril Stacul. From what I hear Clayton and Taylor are ntohing special, what I would do is if France have a trial game try out either Murphy or Pelo at the back see what they can offer. Anyway from that squad I would go with: 1. Jared Taylor 2. Justin Murphy 3. John Wilson 4. Sebastien Raguin 5. Dimitri Pelo 6. Thomas Bosc 7. Maxime Greseque 8. Jerome Guisset 9. Julien Rinaldi 10. Oliver Elima 11. Eric Anselme 12. Jamal Fakir 13. Gregory Mounis 14. Jean-Philippe Baile 15. Remi Casty 16. Adel Fellous 17. Laurent Carrasco |
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Post by Marv on Sept 24, 2008 18:34:09 GMT 10
OK so only 2 players out so far, assuming Duport is out. I should say three including Cryil Gossard. Also no Cyril Stacul. no khattabi either(thank god) stacul maybe hasnt played enough and he is still young From what I hear Clayton and Taylor are ntohing special, what I would do is if France have a trial game try out either Murphy or Pelo at the back see what they can offer. I dont think they are anything special but i wouldnt be playing murph or pelo at the back personally 1. Jared Taylor 2. Justin Murphy 3. John Wilson 4. Sebastien Raguin 5. Dimitri Pelo 6. Thomas Bosc 7. Maxime Greseque 8. Jerome Guisset 9. Julien Rinaldi 10. Oliver Elima 11. Eric Anselme 12. Jamal Fakir 13. Gregory Mounis 14. Jean-Philippe Baile 15. Remi Casty 16. Adel Fellous 17. Laurent Carrasco it looks decent but I worry about someone for Rinaldi to take a break, he looked tired the last two times I saw france simply because he never puts 80 mins in. |
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Post by jim on Sept 24, 2008 18:44:54 GMT 10
no khattabi either(thank god) stacul maybe hasnt played enough and he is still young I don't think Khattabi is as bad as you say personally but no way is he more deserving than Murphy or Pelo, Pelo was a shining light in the loss to Wigan and Murphy is a quality winger. I dont think they are anything special but i wouldnt be playing murph or pelo at the back personally I reckon it would be worth a go, I didn't think Minichello was a fullback back in '02 when he was playing wing but the switch did wonders for his career. it looks decent but I worry about someone for Rinaldi to take a break, he looked tired the last two times I saw france simply because he never puts 80 mins in. Yeh good point, maybe move Wynne on to the bench so he can relieve Rinaldi. |
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Post by Marv on Sept 24, 2008 23:07:00 GMT 10
I reckon it would be worth a go, I didn't think Minichello was a fullback back in '02 when he was playing wing but the switch did wonders for his career. Maybe jim, why not. |
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Post by jim on Oct 7, 2008 13:08:13 GMT 10
Australian Squad
Terry Campese (Canberra Raiders), Petero Civoniceva (Penrith Panthers), Michael Crocker (Melbourne Storm), Craig Fitzgibbon (Sydney Roosters), Israel Folau (Melbourne Storm), Paul Gallen (Cronulla Sharks), Kurt Gidley (Newcastle Knights), Justin Hodges (Brisbane Broncos), Greg Inglis (Melbourne Storm), Brent Kite (Manly Sea Eagles) Anthony Laffranchi (Gold Coast Titans), Darren Lockyer (capt, Brisbane Broncos), Joel Monaghan (Canberra Raiders), Josh Perry (Manly Sea Eagles), Steve Price (NZ Warriors), Scott Prince (Gold Coast Titans), Billy Slater (Melbourne Storm), Cameron Smith (Melbourne Storm), Brett Stewart (Manly Sea Eagles), Glenn Stewart (Manly Sea Eagles), Brent Tate (NZ Warriors), Johnathan Thurston (Cowboys), Anthony Watmough (Manly Sea Eagles), David Williams (Manly Sea Eagles).
Few suprises with some of the players named and some not named. Karmichael Hunt is still IMO the best fullback in the NRL.
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Post by beez on Oct 7, 2008 14:46:33 GMT 10
Kuwatikev had this in the International section but I thought I'd chuck it here as well.
Blair, Adam
Cayless, Nathan (C)
Eastwood, Greg
Fa'alogo, David
Fien, Nathan
Halatau, Dene
Hohaia, Lance
Inu, Krisnan
Kidwell, David
Leuluai, Thomas
Lima, Jeff
Luke, Issac
Mannering, Simon
Manu, Sika
Marshall, Benji
Matai, Steve
Perrett, Sam
Rapira, Sam
Ropati, Jerome
Sa, Setimata
Smith, Jeremy
Soliola, Iosia
Vatuvei, Manu
Webb, Brent
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Post by jim on Oct 7, 2008 15:52:20 GMT 10
Kuwatikev had this in the International section but I thought I'd chuck it here as well. Blair, Adam Cayless, Nathan (C) Eastwood, Greg Fa'alogo, David Fien, Nathan Halatau, Dene Hohaia, Lance Inu, Krisnan Kidwell, David Leuluai, Thomas Lima, Jeff Luke, Issac Mannering, Simon Manu, Sika Marshall, Benji Matai, Steve Perrett, Sam Rapira, Sam Ropati, Jerome Sa, Setimata Smith, Jeremy Soliola, Iosia Vatuvei, Manu Webb, Brent Notable omissions that I can see are Fai, Matulino and Nightingale. Suprising selections are Sa (Thought he was Injured), Manu and Kidwell. Still a pretty good side though. 1. Brent Webb 2. Krisnan Inu (swap around with centres and FB on ocassions) 3. Jerome Ropati 4. Steve Matai 5. Manu Vatuvei 6. Benji Marshall 7. Nathan Fien 8. Nathan Cayless 9. Isaac Luke 10. Jeff Lima 11. David Fa'alogo 12. Jeremy Smith 13. Simon Mannering 14. Lance Hohaia 15. Sam Rapira 16. Greg Eastwood 17. Setimata Sa 18. Sika Manu 19. Iosia Soliola 20. David Kidwell 21. Thomas Leuluai 22. Dene Halatau 23. Adam Blair 24. Sam Perrett |
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Post by beez on Oct 7, 2008 16:12:05 GMT 10
No surprises in the Kiwis for me.
Matai and Webb are in doubt with injuries (if one pulls out then watch this space for Wiki's name).
Sa and Soiola both need surgery but have delayed it until after the WC.
Maybe a bit early for Fai and Matulino (I hope they don't turn out for Samoa now as they will both play for NZ one day).
Kidwell had to be there for his experience and he always steps up when he pulls on the black jersey.
The Kiwis can definitely take down that Australian team. Not long now! ;D
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Post by jim on Oct 7, 2008 16:35:08 GMT 10
No surprises in the Kiwis for me. Matai and Webb are in doubt with injuries (if one pulls out then watch this space for Wiki's name). Sa and Soiola both need surgery but have delayed it until after the WC. Maybe a bit early for Fai and Matulino (I hope they don't turn out for Samoa now as they will both play for NZ one day). Kidwell had to be there for his experience and he always steps up when he pulls on the black jersey. The Kiwis can definitely take down that Australian team. Not long now! ;D Hope Webb and Matai pull through because they are both important players for the kiwis. I would have liked to see either Fai or Matulino in there even if they didn't get a start, would be a greate xperience. No doubt they will play for NZ though as early as next year I beleieve. Hopefully they both turn down Samoa. Glad to hear International RL coming first for Sa and Soliola, and Matai had the option aswell I believe. The way it should be! Kidwell hasn't been in great form but is one of those players who steps up every time he plays for country, others are Soliola and Halatau, not the best week-in, week-out for their clubs but always seem to play well for the kiwis. |
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Post by Marv on Oct 7, 2008 17:50:30 GMT 10
1. Brent Webb
2. Krisnan Inu
3. Iosia Soliola
4. Steve Matai
5. Manu Vatuvei
6. Jerome Ropati
7. Thomas Leuluai
8. Nathan Cayless
9. Isaac Luke
10. Jeff Lima
11. David Fa'alogo
12. Jeremy Smith
13. Simon Mannering
14. Lance Hohaia
15. Sam Rapira
16. Dene Halatau
17. Adam Blair
1. Brett Stewart/Billy Slater
2. Greg Inglis
3. Brent Tate
4. Justin Hodges
5. Israel Folau
6. Darren Lockyer
7. Johnathan Thurston
8. Petero Civoniceva
9. Cameron Smith
10. Steve Price
11. Anthony Laffranchi
12. Glenn Stewart
13. Paul Gallen
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15. Brent Kite
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17. Craig Fitzgibbon
MAybe something like this, I havent seen much NRL this year so its possibly a bit out of form but what the hey!
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Post by beez on Oct 7, 2008 18:18:42 GMT 10
1. Brent Webb 2. Krisnan Inu 3. Iosia Soliola 4. Steve Matai 5. Manu Vatuvei 6. Jerome Ropati 7. Thomas Leuluai 8. Nathan Cayless 9. Isaac Luke 10. Jeff Lima 11. David Fa'alogo 12. Jeremy Smith 13. Simon Mannering 14. Lance Hohaia 15. Sam Rapira 16. Dene Halatau 17. Adam Blair 1. Brett Stewart/Billy Slater 2. Greg Inglis 3. Brent Tate 4. Justin Hodges 5. Israel Folau 6. Darren Lockyer 7. Johnathan Thurston 8. Petero Civoniceva 9. Cameron Smith 10. Steve Price 11. Anthony Laffranchi 12. Glenn Stewart 13. Paul Gallen 14. 15. Brent Kite 16. 17. Craig Fitzgibbon MAybe something like this, I havent seen much NRL this year so its possibly a bit out of form but what the hey! They look on the mark. Benji will be at 6 for the Kiwis and I'd go for Sa on the bench instead of either Hohaia or Halatau. And personally I'd like to see Kidwell in there but its unlikely. Crocker to start for Aussie with Gidley on the bench with any choice of forwards. I have no idea how Fitzgibbon made the squad, he was extremely lucky to make Origin. |
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Post by Ryan N on Oct 7, 2008 19:27:04 GMT 10
1. Brent Webb 2. Krisnan Inu 3. Iosia Soliola 4. Steve Matai 5. Manu Vatuvei 6. Jerome Ropati 7. Thomas Leuluai 8. Nathan Cayless 9. Isaac Luke 10. Jeff Lima 11. David Fa'alogo 12. Jeremy Smith 13. Simon Mannering 14. Lance Hohaia 15. Sam Rapira 16. Dene Halatau 17. Adam Blair 1. Brett Stewart/Billy Slater 2. Greg Inglis 3. Brent Tate 4. Justin Hodges 5. Israel Folau 6. Darren Lockyer 7. Johnathan Thurston 8. Petero Civoniceva 9. Cameron Smith 10. Steve Price 11. Anthony Laffranchi 12. Glenn Stewart 13. Paul Gallen 14. 15. Brent Kite 16. 17. Craig Fitzgibbon MAybe something like this, I havent seen much NRL this year so its possibly a bit out of form but what the hey! They look on the mark. Benji will be at 6 for the Kiwis and I'd go for Sa on the bench instead of either Hohaia or Halatau. And personally I'd like to see Kidwell in there but its unlikely. Crocker to start for Aussie with Gidley on the bench with any choice of forwards. I have no idea how Fitzgibbon made the squad, he was extremely lucky to make Origin. Is that Fitzgibbon comment serious. I cannot believe you just said that. Brings experience and the truth is he puts in a hard game. More deserving to be there than some others. |
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