PNG

[sportsmad]

News in the tele today si that david gallop has offered former troubled sharks CEO Tony Zapia a post for PNG. Zapia aparantly lost no support of the rugby league fraternity and is still held in high regard. however, no club wants take the risk of him short term though.
this is all the article said, i dont know what his role with PNG will be.

[sportsmad]

Papua New Guinea apply for place in 2010 Queensland Cup

The Papua New Guinea Rugby League has made a formal submission to play in the 2010 Queensland Cup as a stepping stone to an NRL franchise.

The submission will go before a QRL Board meeting on Friday with managing director Ross Livermore indicating his directors were not opposed to expanding the competition to 13 teams.

"The PNG proposal is comprehensive and we will certainly give it serious consideration," Livermore said.

"If they were to be admitted they would have to meet their own travel costs and the costs of visiting teams.

"The PNG Government is helping fund the NRL bid so hopefully that will not be a problem."

Livermore inspected Stockland Park at Kawana on Wednesday as preparations gained momentum for Friday's Queensland Cup grand final between Sunshine Coast and Northern Pride.

The Pride will fly from Cairns to Brisbane today to go into camp for the match

Travel costs will be significant for the PNG gov to fund aswell. It will show how serious they are if they do. didnt Port Moresby Vipers have a team in the QLD cup a few years back, i could be wrong

[jim]

Papua New Guinea apply for place in 2010 Queensland Cup

The Papua New Guinea Rugby League has made a formal submission to play in the 2010 Queensland Cup as a stepping stone to an NRL franchise.

The submission will go before a QRL Board meeting on Friday with managing director Ross Livermore indicating his directors were not opposed to expanding the competition to 13 teams.

"The PNG proposal is comprehensive and we will certainly give it serious consideration," Livermore said.

"If they were to be admitted they would have to meet their own travel costs and the costs of visiting teams.

"The PNG Government is helping fund the NRL bid so hopefully that will not be a problem."

Livermore inspected Stockland Park at Kawana on Wednesday as preparations gained momentum for Friday's Queensland Cup grand final between Sunshine Coast and Northern Pride.

The Pride will fly from Cairns to Brisbane today to go into camp for the match

Good move I feel, shows they are serious and TBH this should be the bare minimum for PNG. This now showcases PNG players to NRL clubs and it should help get more PNG players into NRL.

I'll definatley go to Comets V PNG next year.

[sportsmad]

what does this mean for the SE cup or whatver the PNG competition is called. i hope we dont see another NZ situation on our hands

[Druzik]

Bye bye B mobile bup... this will decimate and ruin their local comp.... I just dont agree on this move.

where will they come up with the $10-15 million to run the franchise? Why cant that kind of money be put back into the local comp and bring its standard uppay the players more and pump it into the commnity with facilities etc...

its a bad move IMHO.

[Ryan N]

Sept 13, 2009 19:51:16 GMT 10 Druzik said:

Bye bye B mobile bup... this will decimate and ruin their local comp.... I just dont agree on this move.

where will they come up with the $10-15 million to run the franchise? Why cant that kind of money be put back into the local comp and bring its standard uppay the players more and pump it into the commnity with facilities etc...

its a bad move IMHO.

I'd have to say in this situation I agree. That money could vastly improve the local comp, doing the same community benefits as having a franchise would.

But look, Central Coast, Perth and PNG and perhaps Southern Orcas are the only guys actually doing anything, so I'd hate to see them not given a franchise with a second Queensland team in. I mean, if there was someone from Queensland being pro-active I wouldn't think that but just based on effort the other franchises deserve it more.

[Druzik]

Sept 14, 2009 11:01:06 GMT 10 Ryan N said:

Sept 13, 2009 19:51:16 GMT 10 Druzik said:

Bye bye B mobile bup... this will decimate and ruin their local comp.... I just dont agree on this move.

where will they come up with the $10-15 million to run the franchise? Why cant that kind of money be put back into the local comp and bring its standard uppay the players more and pump it into the commnity with facilities etc...

its a bad move IMHO.

I'd have to say in this situation I agree. That money could vastly improve the local comp, doing the same community benefits as having a franchise would.

But look, Central Coast, Perth and PNG and perhaps Southern Orcas are the only guys actually doing anything, so I'd hate to see them not given a franchise with a second Queensland team in. I mean, if there was someone from Queensland being pro-active I wouldn't think that but just based on effort the other franchises deserve it more.

Thats just it, at the moment we really dont know who all the players are. Your right there is no one else looking to do another franchise bid. All we have solidly is Perth and CC... which I would be giving them the next two franchises... even the wellington franchise is quiet ATM so not sure where all these people are coming up with the orcas.

look travel and hotel costs will be over $500,000 a year with a PNG bid alone... then a 4.5 million sallary cap... that can go a loooong way to professionalise the B mobile cup.

[beez]

I don't know enough about domestic rugby league in PNG to comment too much on the effects this may have in PNG but since the (Auckland) Warriors were admitted into the NRL, domestic rugby league in NZ has suffered.

The NRL has become more & more popular in NZ due to a combination of the Warriors, rugby union becoming boring, & obviously rugby league being such an exciting game. BUT all the kids in NZ wanting to play rugby league at the highest level see Australia or Auckland as their only options (as this is where the teams & money are), therefore leaving domestic competitions with the left-overs.

Could the same situation arise in PNG? Would there be enough domestically to keep their juniors or are the NRL & other Australian competitions just going to get stronger while killing off the local PNG clubs.

[beez]

Sept 14, 2009 15:29:27 GMT 10 Druzik said:

Thats just it, at the moment we really dont know who all the players are. Your right there is no one else looking to do another franchise bid. All we have solidly is Perth and CC... which I would be giving them the next two franchises... even the wellington franchise is quiet ATM so not sure where all these people are coming up with the orcas.

This is what I've seen on Central Queensland: www.cqnrlbid.com.au/

As for Wellington, I'm not too sure what's going on. The WRL boss is trying to organise something but, like last time they bid, it all seems very quiet which probably means they are struggling.

[Druzik]

Sept 14, 2009 15:59:41 GMT 10 beez said:

I don't know enough about domestic rugby league in PNG to comment too much on the effects this may have in PNG but since the (Auckland) Warriors were admitted into the NRL, domestic rugby league in NZ has suffered.

The NRL has become more & more popular in NZ due to a combination of the Warriors, rugby union becoming boring, & obviously rugby league being such an exciting game. BUT all the kids in NZ wanting to play rugby league at the highest level see Australia or Auckland as their only options (as this is where the teams & money are), therefore leaving domestic competitions with the left-overs.

Could the same situation arise in PNG? Would there be enough domestically to keep their juniors or are the NRL & other Australian competitions just going to get stronger while killing off the local PNG clubs.

PNG has a very strong local comp the B mobile cup. 8 teams spread rthough the country. on average their games get 3-5000. Its officially semi professional, but I am sure that the money that would go into a Pt Moresby franchise could be better spent paying the players and upgrading the various facilities in PNG.... making it a professional sport.

[Marv]

Sept 14, 2009 15:59:41 GMT 10 beez said:

I don't know enough about domestic rugby league in PNG to comment too much on the effects this may have in PNG but since the (Auckland) Warriors were admitted into the NRL, domestic rugby league in NZ has suffered.

The NRL has become more & more popular in NZ due to a combination of the Warriors, rugby union becoming boring, & obviously rugby league being such an exciting game. BUT all the kids in NZ wanting to play rugby league at the highest level see Australia or Auckland as their only options (as this is where the teams & money are), therefore leaving domestic competitions with the left-overs.

Could the same situation arise in PNG? Would there be enough domestically to keep their juniors or are the NRL & other Australian competitions just going to get stronger while killing off the local PNG clubs.

I think they are very valid points there B, you could certainly say the same about the French Elite comp since Catalan and Toulouses' inclusion into the UK game.

[jim]

Sept 14, 2009 11:01:06 GMT 10 Ryan N said:

Sept 13, 2009 19:51:16 GMT 10 Druzik said:

Bye bye B mobile bup... this will decimate and ruin their local comp.... I just dont agree on this move.

where will they come up with the $10-15 million to run the franchise? Why cant that kind of money be put back into the local comp and bring its standard uppay the players more and pump it into the commnity with facilities etc...

its a bad move IMHO.

I'd have to say in this situation I agree. That money could vastly improve the local comp, doing the same community benefits as having a franchise would.

But look, Central Coast, Perth and PNG and perhaps Southern Orcas are the only guys actually doing anything, so I'd hate to see them not given a franchise with a second Queensland team in. I mean, if there was someone from Queensland being pro-active I wouldn't think that but just based on effort the other franchises deserve it more.

Central Queensland has quite a strong bid in place with alot of money behind it. Would not be suprised one bit to see another bisbane based team bid aswell.

FWIW I think Perth and Central Coast will be there in 2013. IMO NZ desperatly needs another team aswell, it's going to hard to fit them in though, if a sydney club relocated to Central Coast then maybe.

[Druzik]

a 20 team comp is still viable I think.

[jim]

Sept 14, 2009 20:51:46 GMT 10 Druzik said:

a 20 team comp is still viable I think.

The current 16 +

2013 - Perth, Central Coast
2016 - Ipswich/2nd Brisbane, Wellington
2019 - Central Queensland, PNG

I know the TV contract runs for 5 years but it's too long to wait IMO.

[Druzik]

Sept 14, 2009 20:58:18 GMT 10 jim said:

Sept 14, 2009 20:51:46 GMT 10 Druzik said:

a 20 team comp is still viable I think.

The current 16 +

2013 - Perth, Central Coast
2016 - Ipswich/2nd Brisbane, Wellington
2019 - Central Queensland, PNG

I know the TV contract runs for 5 years but it's too long to wait IMO.

i just am not convinced on the PNG and wellingotn bids, for me they will both kill off the local comps.