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Post by sportsmad on May 23, 2009 16:26:45 GMT 10
For the sake of ideas im just going to throw this post out there to see people opinion on it (FYI im bored doing an assignment):
The Canberra raiders have 4-5000 season members, equal lowest along with the sharks. Whilst the population of canberra is only 323,056 as of 2006 I feel this number needs to be improved in order for a club to be successful. The club is in direct competition with the ACT brumbies who bring an international flavour to the city along with having star players with x factor who make regular appearances for the wallabies. These stats tell me that everyone loves a winning team with star players as an attraction. Canberrra don’t have this and havent had this for many years now. Not many NRL players want to live in canberra and this is why they fail to lure the high paid x factor players to the club. My proposition is to increase the raiders salary cap allowance by around $250,000 per year (around 6% of the current $4.1 million). Does anyone think this feasible or would it just open a giant can of worms?
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Post by Druzik on May 23, 2009 17:14:14 GMT 10
No throwing in more money wont change a thing, just means the top end teams will have more money to keep players as well...
look SL used to hve a structured slary cap and it didnt work... all teams need the same and thats it.
I dont know why Canberra gets such a bad wrap... I love the city, it is a bit quieter but its got soo much in it to keep you occupied. Its got some wonderful places to eat and drink at, you have the mountains 30 mins away for hiking, some great fishing in the areas, beach is still only 2 hours away and in one of the most spectacular areas on NSW, Durros and Batemans Bay area, Hiking, the museums in Canberra are awesome, you only need to deal with peak minute, have Goulburne and Wagga if you want a change of pace... 3 hours from sydney so a day trip is feasable... ok 6 hours to melbourne, but who ants to go there ... ;D ... the villages around canberra a great, like Gundarrooo, a place of only 70 peole and 1 pub, but people make the trip from sydney just to have the gourmet Pizzas there... Collector jam factory... just off the Federal... there is heaps to do in that area...Oh the snowy mountains are only 2 hours away! Its still quite cheap to live there compared to the bigger cities, the best and highest funded Uni in the ANU... fek why wouldnt you live in Caberra.
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Post by Druzik on May 23, 2009 17:19:51 GMT 10
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Post by sportsmad on May 24, 2009 9:44:37 GMT 10
you dont see artciles like that much these days
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Post by Druzik on May 24, 2009 15:28:16 GMT 10
you dont see artciles like that much these days No you dont and it pisses me off.... so in the last 6 months there have been about 10 crisies... yet here we are able to 5 times as many potential sotries on the good stuff.... But these dont sell papers so dont get a run. |
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Post by sportsmad on May 24, 2009 16:53:15 GMT 10
whats happened to the warriors! they just lost to the raiders! i was going nto go to that match. lucky i didnt
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Post by Druzik on May 24, 2009 16:59:48 GMT 10
whats happened to the warriors! they just lost to the raiders! i was going nto go to that match. lucky i didnt I thnk you answered your own question... they lost  Look I think people blew too much sunshine up their klackers at the seasons beginning and they beleived their own hype.... Still they are 11 so its not too bad a season so far. only 3 out the top 8, still can do anything. |
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Post by Ryan N on May 24, 2009 17:28:09 GMT 10
Canberra sucks! Are you serious!  |
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Post by England 3 Lions on May 25, 2009 14:48:03 GMT 10
I am feeling it for The Warriors this season in a way I never have before ... Usually I am hopeful we will make the Top 8 if anything but after the End of Season run in 008 & The Kiwis WC Victory ... My team, the Cowboys, broke our hoodoo at Mt. Smart Stadium last week! It's always good to defeat the Warriors on their turf, as the NZ media referred to the Cowboys as a "lowly" club in 2003. you dont see artciles like that much these days The media is hellbent on destroying rugby league's reputation. The only time they'll focus on the sport is when they want to stir up controversy. But whats happening with cronulla is not natural seöection... its an out and out lynching hunting season... its an extermination, one where no 'species' is safe. Remember that in nature what happens to one species will have and effect on the ones around it... the same will happen here. True. Ousting the Sharks from the NRL could lead to Sutherland Shire's rugby league fans and junior playing base turning to rugby union, association football and Australian rules football. The game in Australia cannot afford to lose the Sutherland Shire region to one of our rival codes. Sutherland Shire has a very large population, has a marketable rivalry with St. George and has produced a lot of great moments for Australian rugby league fans. Their rivalry with the Broncos during the late 1990's, especially in 1997 and 1998, was as good as any I've ever seen. The rival codes want the Sharks to die so they can weaken rugby league's stronghold in Sydney. Letting the Sharks die at the hands of the media is akin to bowing down to rugby union, Australian rules football and association football. You'll see if cronulla goes and gets replaces by CC... I guarantee that withing 2 years East will be targetted as the next team to get executed. Thei rich backer wont save them, they have low crowds also have 'troubled ' players etc... no dofferent to cronulla and all the fans seem to hate them as wll.... you boys may get your 4th qld team yet... souths and doggies will be forced to merge as well Parra and Penrith will merge... bye bye traditional clubs. I would not be surprised if the lower leagues start to thrive as disgruntled fans ditch the NRL.... and Union and AFL will also pick up. I'd love to see the Queensland Cup and NSW Cup receive as much media coverage as the NRL. The state leagues need to upgrade the grounds of the teams and develop a strategy to draw larger crowds to the games. The on-field action is skillful, tough, while the price of admission is fair. I think it's a great alternative to the NRL, as you can see great action at a cheap price. |
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Post by England 3 Lions on May 25, 2009 15:53:30 GMT 10
idealy there wouldnt have been so many sydney team in the first place.... i agree ryan. u kinda want a clean cut to less sydney teams without losing any fans but unfortunately thats not going to happen. roosters would be the second and only team that can be sacrafised in my opinion (i know that comment will have druzik disagreeing too). if only a relegation system was feasible! One possibility is to set up an ESL promotion and relegation franchise system for the Sydney-based clubs. The clubs' spot in the NRL will be determined by the value they bring to the sport. For example, the clubs who are doing drawing the smallest crowds, have the least amount of members, and a lacklustre attidue to developing the game at the grassroots level will be consigned to relegation. The assessment period should be able 3 or 5 years, possibly more. The aforementioned proposal will give the most apathetic supporters of the clubs an incentive to attend the matches and become club members, thus increasing the tribalistic following between the clubs and improving the teams' ability to compete in the business world. As a bonus, it'll give former first-grade clubs who wish to participate in the NRL, such as Balmain, Western Suburbs, North Sydney and Newtown, a clear pathway to the NRL. Their fans might start supporting them in larger numbers at their NSW Cup games so they can gain promotion into the NRL. Some of the Bears supporters who walked out on the game after Norths' departure from the NRL might return. |
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Post by sportsmad on May 26, 2009 6:29:10 GMT 10
NSW team names last night:
NEW SOUTH WALES TEAM
1 Kurt Gidley, captain (Newcastle Knights)
2 Jarryd Hayne (Parramatta Eels)
3 Jamie Lyon (Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles)
4 Michael Jennings (Penrith Panthers)
5 James McManus (Newcastle Knights)
6 Terry Campese (Canberra Raiders)
7 Peter Wallace (Brisbane Broncos)
8 Luke Bailey (Gold Coast Titans)
9 Robbie Farah (Wests Tigers)
10 Brent Kite (Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles)
11 Ben Creagh (St George Illawarra Dragons)
12 Luke O'Donnell (North Queensland Cowboys)
13 Paul Gallen (Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks)
Subs:
14 Craig Wing (South Sydney Rabbitohs)
15 Justin Poore (St George Illawarra Dragons)
16 Glenn Stewart (Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles)
17 Michael Weyman (St George Illawarra Dragons)
18th Man: Luke Lewis (Penrith Panthers)
Coach: Craig Bellamy (Melbourne Storm)
not a bad side all in all. i would have actually gone with ennis ratehr than farrah. the ommision of watmough , lafranchi , cooker and monaghan is suprising but great to see theyre looking towards the future and going on form
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Post by Druzik on May 26, 2009 6:44:31 GMT 10
That is an absolutely appaling side... for two reasons at least I can see... now lest see if the rest of you can pick it up.
Clue: Need to look at the general global picture of RL.
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Post by Druzik on May 26, 2009 6:53:15 GMT 10
idealy there wouldnt have been so many sydney team in the first place.... i agree ryan. u kinda want a clean cut to less sydney teams without losing any fans but unfortunately thats not going to happen. roosters would be the second and only team that can be sacrafised in my opinion (i know that comment will have druzik disagreeing too). if only a relegation system was feasible! One possibility is to set up an ESL promotion and relegation franchise system for the Sydney-based clubs. The clubs' spot in the NRL will be determined by the value they bring to the sport. For example, the clubs who are doing drawing the smallest crowds, have the least amount of members, and a lacklustre attidue to developing the game at the grassroots level will be consigned to relegation. The assessment period should be able 3 or 5 years, possibly more. Bruce the problem is that the crowds f clubs will fluctuate violently from year to year. As I said several years ago and even last year cronullas clubs were gteat, this year not so and all of a sudden people want to kill the club. The same was said for wests bunnies and roosters over the yeras. If Brisbane had 9 clubs you would have the same problem that they would have lower crowds. It would not solve anything. The fan bases are split down defined club lines. People will not just jump on for the hell of it if a club goes up. A team like Newtown these days will never pull more than about 3-4000 pople, it just does not cover a large enough area anymore. The jest represent 3 suburbs, newtown, enmore and st peters, thats it, all other suburbs belong either to southes, sts or wests/balmain. Peopl will not just jump on board for the hell of it. See what is different in england is that through the three levels all the clubs a different that cover different towns and ares thus can have a potential large fan base. in australia one club represent several grades, so the sharks have teams in the NRL, NSW cup, Bund red and U20 as well as the Jersey flegg... the promotion relegation franchises will not work, as P&R never worked previously. |
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Post by Ryan N on May 26, 2009 8:48:49 GMT 10
That is an absolutely appaling side... for two reasons at least I can see... now lest see if the rest of you can pick it up. Clue: Need to look at the general global picture of RL. McManus. Easy haha. No need for a clue. |
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Post by Ryan N on May 26, 2009 8:49:54 GMT 10
And Hayne to an extent perhaps...
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