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Post by Druzik on Mar 2, 2009 21:27:18 GMT 10
Why? Why should we worry about blow out scores when no other sport does... they give teams equal opportunities to compete with the best in teh world. I think RL needs to finally stop playing the vicitm and take the initialtive. Last night and this morning was friggin painful to watch that there was zero coverage of the WCC on any of the news channels... they gave a 5 min speal about some bloke that catches marlins to surf ... but nothing on one of the more important RL matches of the year. So frustrating. We had live coverage thankfully delayed by the extra time in the FA Cup Final which meant I had less painful English Commentary to listen to ... Get someone decent commentating FFS ... Anyway, result made news here in NZed ... Maybe we should build more in the countries who care about RL first  That is the whole point... which countries care? I dont think australia even does in enough to promote the sport in its own back yard let alone anzwhere else. I have been having a right royal shit fight on two other forums about this... but I seem to be the only one bold enough to call on the culling of Satae of Origin in its present form. Its a blight on the game as it stands and does absolutely zero to grow the game in australia or overseas. |
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Post by Kiwi fan on Mar 3, 2009 12:26:05 GMT 10
Why? Why should we worry about blow out scores when no other sport does... they give teams equal opportunities to compete with the best in teh world. I think RL needs to finally stop playing the vicitm and take the initialtive. Last night and this morning was friggin painful to watch that there was zero coverage of the WCC on any of the news channels... they gave a 5 min speal about some bloke that catches marlins to surf ... but nothing on one of the more important RL matches of the year. So frustrating. Well most people down here don't care about it. It's basically considered a pre season game. |
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Post by Druzik on Mar 3, 2009 17:03:19 GMT 10
Right and until that attitude is changed by the flac cappers that run the sport there rugby league will alwayys be considered a 2 state, one city, northern english abomination.
.... because that is how it is viewed unfortunately.
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Post by England 3 Lions on Mar 4, 2009 13:35:19 GMT 10
I know that Adriam wants to take Kumul games to other cities to spread the game even more. Basing an NRL team in Port Moresby will allow the PNGRFL's national competition to focus on the country's other main towns. |
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Post by England 3 Lions on Mar 4, 2009 14:15:01 GMT 10
The following two-group system could be used at the next world cup. Group AAustralia England New Zealand France Papua New Guinea Lebanon/Russia/USA Group BTonga Samoa Fiji Wales Scotland Ireland (Five Weeks)Winner of Group A plays Winner of Group B to determine their the number 1 and 2 seeds for the semi-finals. Runner-up from Group A plays 3rd ranked team from Group BRunner-up from Group B plays 3rd ranked team from Group AWinners advance to semi-finals: the two winners' seeding are determined by their for and against record during the group stage of the competition. (1 Week)Semi Final 1Seed 2 vs Seed 3 Semi Final 2Seed 1 vs Seed 4 (1 Week)FinalWinner SF 1 vs Winner SF 2 Pros: - The two groups, as listed, allow the RLIF to capitalise on the sport's most fierce rivalies. The Tonga vs Samoa Group Stage match from the RLWC08 was a huge success because there's a natural rivalry between the two countries.
- All teams are guaranteed MORE games. With many of the lesser ranked teams looking to play against quality opposition, this gives them an opportunity to test themselves against the best.
- If promoted properly, the competition gives the RLIF 2 full months to a) promote the sport around the world and b) draw revenue from the quantity of matches or appeal to people's desire to receive something for free by hosting double-header matches.
- The round before the semi-finals would see the "big three" play.
Cons:- Could become over-drawn like the cricket and RU world cups.
- Could lead to a lot of blow-out scores.
- The extra-matches might lead to player fatigue.
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Post by Druzik on Mar 4, 2009 17:28:01 GMT 10
I know that Adriam wants to take Kumul games to other cities to spread the game even more. Basing an NRL team in Port Moresby will allow the PNGRFL's national competition to focus on the country's other main towns. A fijian NRL team will be expensive, there is zero infrastructure there to hold a team, its expensive to fly in and out, there is no transportation, security cannot be guaranteed.... there are so many factors... I know my cousin has to deal with the security stuff in PNG and the Islands all the time... and he says its a nightmare over there. Plus a PNG NRL team would decimate the SP cup... just look at what the Broncos did to the QLD comp.... now you can argue that its OK, its a state comep etc... but in PNG its a national competition that would be destroyed and that would be a tragedy. What PNG needs is the investment in its comp... to get the trining facilities up, the pay for the players there up, for them and the clubs to invest back into the local economies. Thats i how to do it. This is where knocj out comps would play a part, Have a knock out comp with the Australian andf PNG teams, have those teams fly over for a game and help bring the local revenue in like that. |
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Post by supersteve on Apr 10, 2009 10:54:22 GMT 10
I personally don't think the WCC is viewed as a pre-season game at all. The result achieved fairly wide coverage here in Australia. It was televised live.
I personally would like to see it come to Australia for a change.
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Post by Druzik on Apr 11, 2009 18:56:42 GMT 10
I personally don't think the WCC is viewed as a pre-season game at all. The result achieved fairly wide coverage here in Australia. It was televised live. I personally would like to see it come to Australia for a change. Steve problem is that the WCC loses money in Australia, basically there is no guarante of a large crowd if say a sydney team or melbourne won it. You'd need an QLD team to guarantee any profit and get the kinds of crowds for the WCC as they do in England. The few times it has come to Aus its been a financial black hole. |
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Post by Kiwi fan on Apr 12, 2009 12:02:38 GMT 10
I personally don't think the WCC is viewed as a pre-season game at all. The result achieved fairly wide coverage here in Australia. It was televised live. I personally would like to see it come to Australia for a change. Steve problem is that the WCC loses money in Australia, basically there is no guarante of a large crowd if say a sydney team or melbourne won it. You'd need an QLD team to guarantee any profit and get the kinds of crowds for the WCC as they do in England. The few times it has come to Aus its been a financial black hole. It is exactly the same thing with England. How many would turn up if Salford, Harlequins, Celtic or Hull KR won it? The thing is always the teams who get big crowds win the competition. If you didn't give the NRL the WCC because a Sydney team might host it then you're penalizing the NRL for being a more even competition. |
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Post by supersteve on Apr 14, 2009 9:57:29 GMT 10
I think nowadays it would draw bigger crowds. I dont think wed have a problem getting a good crowd even to a Sydney team. The English sides have dominated the WCC for a long time, and it is that competitiveness that appeals to people. As ive previously mentioned, it does get quite widespread media coverage here. Also we get one game a week of the ESL televised on free to air, channel nine, before the Sunday afternoon game kicks off in Australia. We get more than that on Pay TV, which is good because I have it. But im glad to see theres at least one match a week on free to air.
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Post by Ryan N on Apr 24, 2009 11:07:09 GMT 10
England and France right? That's what I've heard...
I don't think it would be a wise move to have it in Australia again, it'll just give the narrow minded bastards more ammo in saying the game isn't international.
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Post by supersteve on Apr 24, 2009 15:04:30 GMT 10
We were just referring to the World Club Challenge Ryan, not the 2013 WC. I hope it is held in England and France aswell. What about the possibility of holding a game in Ireland and Scotland also?, providing they qualify. It would be a great boost for RL in those countries I would imagine.
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Post by Druzik on Apr 24, 2009 17:06:35 GMT 10
Well if their bids for Champion ship places come off over the next couple of years I dont see why in general a game or two cant be taken over there.
Murrayfield Magic will be a big test for the scots this year to see what they can do for the sport up there.
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Post by Kiwi fan on May 3, 2009 9:05:08 GMT 10
We were just referring to the World Club Challenge Ryan, not the 2013 WC. I hope it is held in England and France aswell. What about the possibility of holding a game in Ireland and Scotland also?, providing they qualify. It would be a great boost for RL in those countries I would imagine. I'm sure all the games will be held in England. |
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Post by Druzik on May 3, 2009 14:33:30 GMT 10
Profits are guaranteed from the WCC in England, that is one of the reasosn its done there. After all expenses I think thw WCC still comes out about 1/2 million pounds on top.
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